View Poll Results: Dow's approximate bottom will be:
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6800+ ( we are at it now, up from here!)
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11.11% |
6500
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12.35% |
6250
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6.17% |
6000
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17.90% |
Below 6000 (Honey, sell silver on ebay! You like Fancy Feast?)
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52.47% |
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03-03-2009, 11:48 AM
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#81
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riskadverse
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From the article:
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Balances in money market funds are also not “cash on the sidelines.”
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Depends, IMO. If the cash is temporarily sitting it out but waiting for a more (perceived) appropriate time to invest, it's on the sidelines, waiting to get back in the game.
If it's nothing that will ever be invested or it's a permanent part of an asset allocation, it's in the stands.
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03-03-2009, 12:16 PM
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#82
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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"It's tough to make predictions, especially when it involves the future." ~Attributed to many
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." ~(perhaps by) Yogi Berra
"Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge."~ Lau tzu
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03-03-2009, 02:10 PM
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#83
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2006
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[quote=riskadverse;790957]
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Originally Posted by Bikerdude
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The point I was trying to make (and I believe a credible one) was that with more than 3 trillion in Money Market accounts your statement that "most of the money was in" (the stock market) is a stretch.
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03-03-2009, 02:52 PM
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Nov 2006
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We will see a decline to 4672.
We're in the middle of the steep decline right now, then we will see a STRONG rally to the 8500 - 11000 range. Then the bottom will drop out again.
Anyone noticing the similarity?
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03-03-2009, 03:14 PM
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#85
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrinvest
We will see a decline to 4672.
We're in the middle of the steep decline right now, then we will see a STRONG rally to the 8500 - 11000 range. Then the bottom will drop out again.
Anyone noticing the similarity?
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Let me know when it gets to the very top then I will bail. DOW only down 37 points. Maybe I won't lose 20k today.
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03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
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#86
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: LaLa Land
Posts: 4,698
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Dawg, you have 20K left?
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03-03-2009, 03:17 PM
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#87
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
Posts: 50,004
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You still have $20K to lose? What the hell have you been complaining about?
EDIT: Sick Great minds think alike...
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Numbers is hard
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03-03-2009, 03:36 PM
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#88
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
You still have $20K to lose? What the hell have you been complaining about?
EDIT: Sick Great minds think alike...
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You had it right the first time.
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03-03-2009, 03:47 PM
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#89
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Leeward Oahu
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Running_Man
Bears should beware the ides of March!
Prefer a time range to point, I think we are in the last legs of this down leg and will follow with a nice 6 month rally to the fall. But since numbers are required I will pick 6,352.
Don't ask me what I am afraid of come Sept-Dec...........
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Running Man,
I WILL ask as your posts always seem so lucid. Personally, my fear for after Sept. - Dec. is inflation.
Oh yes, my prediction on the DOW is:
5945.
Please send my winnings to the Salvation Army. I think they are gonna need it this Christmas!
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03-03-2009, 04:22 PM
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#90
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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That's the fund I use for my kids' Roths. Starting small, it was the only V fund I could find which accepted $1k. Haven't had the nerve to see what the kids' funds have dropped to. Figuring they have 30 or 35 years before they will need to tap the funds, guess I won't worry about it. Wish I could be around to fund them until then. Small price to pay, heh, heh!
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03-03-2009, 04:26 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boston
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When does WWIII start? Surely the market will improve after we go 3-for-3, right?
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03-03-2009, 04:28 PM
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#92
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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I think Rush already has, heh, heh!
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03-03-2009, 07:09 PM
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#93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolau
That's the fund I use for my kids' Roths. Starting small, it was the only V fund I could find which accepted $1k. Haven't had the nerve to see what the kids' funds have dropped to. Figuring they have 30 or 35 years before they will need to tap the funds, guess I won't worry about it. Wish I could be around to fund them until then. Small price to pay, heh, heh!
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Luckily I started it last year during one of the big dips, so it isn't down too much considering it is a balanced fund. Good thing I put the funds in a balanced fund and not 100% equities (in hindsight).
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03-06-2009, 10:01 AM
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#94
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Originally Posted by HFWR
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Ok, the bottom's in; BUY, BUY, BUY!!!
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03-06-2009, 10:28 AM
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#95
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gone traveling
Join Date: May 2008
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I miss the Soapbox.
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03-06-2009, 10:32 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
Ok, the bottom's in; BUY, BUY, BUY!!!
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I've seen $58 for the S&P500 2009 earnings. So PE-10 = 580 on the S&P. Now to be fair earning estimates are all over the place even at $42. I'll stay with my 5500 Dow low for now.
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03-06-2009, 11:24 AM
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SP500 PE hit a low of 7 in the 1970's, but that around 1977 or so
the earnings aren't as important as the expected earnings growth
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03-06-2009, 11:39 AM
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#98
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I think it will bottom at 4126.
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03-06-2009, 11:53 AM
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#99
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
Ok, the bottom's in; BUY, BUY, BUY!!!
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What I meant to say was "bye bye"...
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03-06-2009, 12:05 PM
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#100
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Looks like my call of "6549" has been surpassed. Although if we aren't playing price is right rules, I may still be in the running if this is the bottom (at 6500 today).
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