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Old 11-05-2008, 10:34 AM   #21
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We are discussing the issue. As a general practice, polls have been private and that is what people are used to.
Frankly, I never noticed the option before. But I figured why not see if this thing really works...
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Frankly, I never noticed the option before. But I figured why not see if this thing really works...
Public polls might be a vBulletin default "feature". When the board's software was converted over, every single one of the polls was public for a few days until someone saw fit to point it out...
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:20 PM   #23
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So I guess it's safe to conclude that no matter what some may think, there are at least 23 people who have intelligent questions on the topic.
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No Art, that is not what you can conclude. Those 23 people may very well have the opinion that they want to be able to warn others who come on the forum of problems with using variable annuities as a mechanism to save for retirement.
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Thanks Martha, I knew I could count on you to find the silver lining.......or....perhaps there were 23 people who actually DO want questions answered.
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Art, better be careful sparring with Martha. You'll end up banned, unable to offer your expertise on the board and lose the few annuity sales leads you're getting by posting here.
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Yeah. You wanna tell 'em or should I? I've got your new policy statement right here. Oooops, I wasn't supposed to tell, was I?
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Art, better be careful sparring with Martha. You'll end up banned, unable to offer your expertise on the board and lose the few annuity sales leads you're getting by posting here.
You had to say something, I sorta like the direction he was going.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:39 PM   #29
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FWIW, I voted to continue discussing VAs even though I think anyone who sells them should be boiled in oil.
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FWIW, I voted to continue discussing VAs even though I think anyone who sells them should be boiled in oil.
Maybe both the topics of VAs and the Soapbox could be spun off into their own boards. That way all the other SocialKnowledge forum members could join in without feeling intimidated by all the ERs (& annuity salesmen, thanks REWahoo) hanging around here...
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You forgot the i dont give a **** option.
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FWIW, I voted to continue discussing VAs even though I think anyone who sells them should be boiled in oil.
Did you ever get your answers?
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I also voted to not to ban the topic because every now and then a legitimate issue may be raised, but 99% of the time its just the same ol crapola...very abusive but easy to ignore.
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I also voted to not to ban the topic because every now and then a legitimate issue may be raised, but 99% of the time its just the same ol crapola...very abusive but easy to ignore.
Why not ban any financial topic that doesn't have the word Vanguard in it, that would make a lot of folks happy..........
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Why not ban any financial topic that doesn't have the word Vanguard in it, that would make a lot of folks happy..........


heh heh heh - or the Pats have a good football team interspersed with Pssst Wellesley - set to music would be kinda nice.

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Why not ban any financial topic that doesn't have the word Vanguard in it, that would make a lot of folks happy..........
Well, then it would be the Bogleheads board...
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Why not ban any financial topic that doesn't have the word Vanguard in it, that would make a lot of folks happy..........
Geez...whya pickin on me? Im not for banning anything.
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Well, then it would be the Bogleheads board...
Darn, I thought this was the Bogleheads Board, what the hell have I been doing on here for over 2 years??
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When I hear someone talking about VAs... I am thinking novice. Perhaps there can be a newbie investor topic. It can provide basic simple advice and debunk scams (legal or otherwise) for newbies.

If someone is asking about VAs (seriously... not trolling)... they are either looking at a purchase (and might need advice) or trying to convince themselves that they did not get screwed with their past purchase.
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When I hear someone talking about VAs... I am thinking novice. Perhaps there can be a newbie investor topic. It can provide basic simple advice and debunk scams (legal or otherwise) for newbies.

If someone is asking about VAs (seriously... not trolling)... they are either looking at a purchase (and might need advice) or trying to convince themselves that they did not get screwed with their past purchase.
Good point, maybe a place where EIA, VA, Fixed annuities, and SPIA can be discussed..........
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