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05-27-2012, 09:14 PM
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How is it possible they misread their consumers so badly? A debacle of New Coke proportions. Only charitable explanation I can think of is they decided their previous strategy was a sure slow death.
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05-28-2012, 12:04 PM
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JCPenny sells drapes and such, don't they? I got all my drapes there. They had a huge selection of drapes of different sizes, designs, colors, etc. They weren't very stylish, but they were very affordable.
I guess that's kind of like Sears with power tools. Maybe you cannot survive by having just one niche.
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05-28-2012, 12:10 PM
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I thought this was fun to play with and it includes JCP, you can sort on any column... 2011 Top 100 Retailers | STORES.org
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05-28-2012, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tmm99
JCPenny sells drapes and such, don't they? I got all my drapes there. They had a huge selection of drapes of different sizes, designs, colors, etc. They weren't very stylish, but they were very affordable.
I guess that's kind of like Sears with power tools. Maybe you cannot survive by having just one niche.
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Frankly, I didn't really care about Craftsman tools and own none. I thought Sears' niche was cheap, practical womens' underwear. I liked their Sears brand bras. But now that Sears is on the way to becoming KMart, I found a more commonly available bra that is an adequate substitute.
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05-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by W2R
Frankly, I didn't really care about Craftsman tools and own none. I thought Sears' niche was cheap, practical womens' underwear. I liked their bras. But now that they are gone...
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I've gotta ask: do you know where your underwear went?
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05-28-2012, 12:35 PM
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05-28-2012, 08:03 PM
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I've gotta ask: do you know where your underwear went?
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I was more worried about why the Craftsmen tools disappeared about the same time...
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05-29-2012, 07:27 AM
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You should try the Sara Blakely "Assets" ones that Target sells. They are the best bras I've ever worn!
OT, I bought a skirt at JCP for my grandfather's funeral 6 years ago. That was my last experience in their stores. Didn't even know about the controversy/new ad campaign.
If I have to find something specific to wear, like for work, I'll go to Belk or Ann Taylor. Otherwise, I'm more of a scavenger, and the mall is the worst place I can imagine having to go.
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05-29-2012, 10:32 AM
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You should try the Sara Blakely "Assets" ones that Target sells. They are the best bras I've ever worn!
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I have never tried them! I'll do that, thanks. The things I learn on this forum are phenomenal.
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05-29-2012, 07:58 PM
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Sales are held to also increase shopper traffic during a specific time frame. There are probably many people that have good intention of going to jc pennies but are not motovated by the fact that the sale will end.
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05-29-2012, 08:15 PM
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Interesting comments about JCP on this thread.
I am one who likes JCP and have bought some clothing over the past few months at amazing savings. I order online and have it shipped to the store for free shipping. Driving to the mall on a weekday morning to pick up my order is great. Often the employees in the store outnumber the customers at that time of day and the parking lot has lots of space. What's not to like about that.
JCP's new pricing strategy was a bit confusing at first, but not that big of a change except for the way they spin it. Best prices are still clearance prices and they update or reduce those prices on 2 Fridays per month. Each month they have special prices or sales on certain merchandise. They advertise all this to me in e-mails every day or two.
For the past 5 or more years I don't often find merchandise in the stores to buy as many retailers have greatly reduced the amount of stuff stocked. This is not just JCP so I am quite disappointed if I go shopping as often I can't find what I want locally.
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05-29-2012, 08:52 PM
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I have my clothes down to a pretty easy automatic process. The only time I shop other than to replace jeans or cargo pants or socks is right after or right before Christmas, when I have found some beautiful cashmere sweaters plenty cheap at Macy's. I also buy most kitchen stuff I need there. One thing I hate about Macy's is that they are always changing the location of their displays, in clothing, not so much housewares. If I am trying to keep tabs on the sweaters, I like to pop in to see how cheap they have become, and buy if my buy-point has been reached. With them always messing with the display locations I sometimes just give up and go outside.
This spring I wanted to buy a v-neck acrylic sweater, so I can wear it all summer without any concern about moths. Couldn't even find one downtown, but I got a really nice one on Amazon. I think it is Docker's brand. I also bought a few workout pieces at the recent REI sale. I wanted that Nike Dry-Fit, which feels good on my skin and is also very easy for me to hand wash after wearing so I am ready to go again the next day.
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05-30-2012, 02:07 PM
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Amazon's unfair advantage re no tax collection will need to be brought to a screeching halt before that playing ground is leveled.
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05-30-2012, 05:56 PM
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I don't have a JCP, but I think the campaign failed because people like to feel like they got a deal and the ad campaign gave the impression that they would never have sales - just everyday, low prices. That would cross them off my list.
I hate to shop, but when I do I am looking for value at the lowest price possible. We usually shop the clearance racks at Kohls for DH. We can usually find Dockers or a similar quality brand for a great price combined with a 30% off coupon that they send me quite regularly in the mail. For me, it's usually a Land's End catalog or Ross or Marshal's (usually Ross). We have to really need something to go clothes shopping though because we both hate it.
As far as Best Buy is concerned, we avoid it if we can; but since it is the only electronics store where we live, there are times when we have little choice if we want to fondle the product before we purchase it. My son used to work there. The cashiers were required to push their "black tie warranty"; but when someone had a problem, he said that Best Buy would try to avoid honoring it. I can't remember the last time that I bought something there.
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07-19-2012, 10:22 AM
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Last one to lose their job, please turn out the lights. Seriously, how the hell can an economy sustain itself when an ever-growing number of people are thrown out of work by this stuff?
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07-19-2012, 10:28 AM
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I guess what JCP loses in loss-prevention with merchandise walking out of the store will be more than made up in payroll savings.
Meanwhile, some grocery stores are getting rid of some of their self-service registers: Self-checkouts on decline nationally (video) - news-herald.com
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07-19-2012, 10:31 AM
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If this is dependent on the migration of their "traditional" data center (if there is such a thing these days) to one based entirely on Oracle (and outsourced to Oracle) it might take a little longer and cost more than planned.
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07-19-2012, 10:33 AM
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I think most shoppers would rather buy a 'sale' item.
Vendor A: Camera XYZ that costs $300 (not on sale)
Vendor B: Camera XYZ on sale for $335 (huge sale this week only!!)
Shoppers love those sales! lol
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07-19-2012, 10:57 AM
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