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Old 10-26-2011, 12:43 PM   #21
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I was going to suggest this, as I'm one of the weird ones who appreciates GregLee's expertise and input on grammar. But I agree that maybe just a note and a link to separate thread for grammar discussion would be best. That way, we can discuss at length (or not), w/o 'intruding' on the current thread. And we could get our grammar lessons all in one handy spot!

Win-win?

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That sounds like a fine suggestion. In fact you wouldn't need to create a new thread every time. Maybe have a thread called "Grammar" that you can add to as posts of interest come up. If the thread became really popular and well used, we could even "sticky it" for reference and easy access.
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That sounds like a fine suggestion. In fact you wouldn't need to create a new thread every time. Maybe have a thread called "Grammar" that you can add to as posts of interest come up. If the thread became really popular and well used, we could even "sticky it" for reference and easy access.
Grammar would be thrilled to know she has her own thread..
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That sounds like a fine suggestion. In fact you wouldn't need to create a new thread every time. Maybe have a thread called "Grammar" that you can add to as posts of interest come up. If the thread became really popular and well used, we could even "sticky it" for reference and easy access.
Right - I did mean (but probably wasn't clear) one thread to collect all the grammar discussions (but separate from the thread where the grammar issue was noted). If it got really long, maybe a few threads for different areas of grammar, but that's probably not needed.

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Old 10-26-2011, 01:16 PM   #24
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Right - I did mean (but probably wasn't clear) one thread to collect all the grammar discussions (but separate from the thread where the grammar issue was noted). If it got really long, maybe a few threads for different areas of grammar, but that's probably not needed.

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I agree. I follow this forum to learn how to retire early, not to improve my grammar. I couldn't care less about the occasional bad grammar or punctuation on a forum written by real people. (Has anyone followed a thread recently on Yahoo Finance? If so, you'll appreciate the intelligent musings on this forum...)
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Well, it certainly shows there isn't much interest, since I just pointed out that it isn't a matter of grammar. Clearly, no one is listening.

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You should feel right at home, after 40 years teaching grammar.

So, how 'bout that COLA? Not much fizz there, eh?
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How about each time you come across things like this you create a new thread in the "Other" forum. I have no problem with this practice and as shown in the thread on the spacing between sentences there are others that are happy to discuss these issues. It is diverting threads like this from the main subject that is particularly annoying to many members.
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That sounds like a fine suggestion. In fact you wouldn't need to create a new thread every time. Maybe have a thread called "Grammar" that you can add to as posts of interest come up. If the thread became really popular and well used, we could even "sticky it" for reference and easy access.
Best of all, the posters who "could care less" can put the entire thread on "Ignore"...
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I have started a new thread on Grammar and Logic, and copied the appropriate posts into it.

Please continue that discussion there and leave this thread on topic.

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Logic (not philosophy). A premise can be converted into an "if" antecedent by the logical rule of implication introduction, or an antecedent into a premise, by the logical rule of modus ponens. So there's a relationship. But they're not the same, because statements (where antecedents are) are not logically like arguments (where premises are). You can attack an argument by showing that its premise is false, but you can't appropriately attack an implication statement by showing that its antecedent is false. This is why I disagreed with the contention that the article under discussion had a false premise.
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So, how 'bout that COLA? Not much fizz there, eh?
Since seniors will have more to spend with the COLA than they would have without it, the economy should be stimulated by the COLA, as compared with its more depressed state without the COLA. But not by much, since the amount of the COLA is so small, just as the article says. I don't really see the relevance of whether the COLA was intended as a special measure whose main purpose was to stimulate the economy.
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All the bleeding heart media likes to concentrate on the 80 year old widow, drawing $700 a month, with a drug bill the size of a new car payment. And while I have sympathy for anyone in that situation, I don't think it's typical. This year's COLA is appreciated by many of us.
BINGO! I have a retired friend with a 26 foot motor home who gets free admission to the National Parks because of his age. Meanwhile, the guy with family and a tent, pays $10 a day!
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BINGO! I have a retired friend with a 26 foot motor home who gets free admission to the National Parks because of his age. Meanwhile, the guy with family and a tent, pays $10 a day!
Once that "guy with a family and a tent" pays fed income taxes for 40+ years to support those Nat Parks, he'll also be eligible for free admission.
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and another +1 comes to.......umm.....solar powered calculators really suck on a cloudy day....there it is +2.
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