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Old 05-11-2006, 08:31 AM   #1
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I have tried to make a purchase using alertpay.com, a send money via email service, and I still didn't receive any message from them stating the status of my account. I found mondopay.com instead, another similar service, but more reliable and faster. The fees are resonable as well.
Is there anyone who used mondopay before? I am interested in what their other services offer (services as escrow, online shop, etc)

MOD EDIT: Smells like spam! Changed title. -BMJ
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:44 PM   #2
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Too new and too unknown for me.


Domain Name: MONDOPAY.COM
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I personally wouldn't give my bank account info to any of these no name services.
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:18 PM   #4
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Why would you not use PayPal?

Or for transfers to a foreign bank account, xe.com?

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Because paypal decides to steal your money (or at least hold it up for a while) for no good reason every now and then, and then theres that whole thing about them keeping your credit card and bank account information indefinitely, even if you're no longer a customer. Said information is then "lost" to hackers with good regularity.

I wouldnt trust any of these 'services' to be honest. The downside risk is far greater than any convenience.
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There are lots of known issues with paypal, but it's the devil I know so I use it. Much better than the devil I don't know. There's no reason to think any of these no name services are any better than paypal and could be much worse.
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The initial post on this thread gives off a distinct odor. What is that smell...? Of course, it's spam!

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The initial post on this thread gives off a distinct odor. What is that smell...? Of course, it's spam!

Ah ... yes, I missed that, but I suspect you're right!

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The initial post on this thread gives off a distinct odor. What is that smell...? Of course, it's spam!

I was going in for the kill myself, but the ace that you are beat me to it! - A very unusual post for the first one, don't you think? -
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A very unusual post for the first one, don't you think?
I saw it this morning and was waiting for someone to complain about it, but it never happened. Gotta give the poster credit, it was a good effort. Close, but no cigar.

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Well, eridanus beat everyone to the punch whether he knows it or not. mondopay.com is too newly registered, so it is incredibly likely illegitimate and perhaps fradulent. So he comes here trying to get the domain name on search engines. I thought about editing it, but the untrustworthy mondopay.com domain has already been mentioned a few times, and although I don't want anyone scammed by mondopay.com I decided to leave the highly suspicious mondopay.com mentions there.

So hopefully when somebody finds this name they will notice how suspicious mondopay.com is as I keep using unhelfpul adjectives when I talk about the possibly evil and highly dubious mondopay.com service.

It looks like mondopay.com spam to me. Personally I wouldn't touch mondopay.com with a 10 foot pole. 2 million page viewers in the past two months will give weight to the idea that mondopay.com may be a ripoff site--after all what else could you conclude from a site that advertises money transfers a month after registering its domain and has no well-known company standing behind it as far as I can see from a quick visit?

Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of the company beyond the domain name registration and a quick visit, so do your own due dilligence to find out for sure if mondopay.com is a total scam that will rip off your money or if said site is legit. From what I've seen, though, I personally wouldn't send two cents via mondopay.com.
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This just in: Apparently mondopay.com misrepresents its location! The domain is registered to somebody in Connecticut while the site claims to be Romainian.
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Is there anyone who used mondopay before? I am interested in what their other services offer (services as escrow, online shop, etc)

MOD EDIT: Smells like spam! Changed title. -BMJ
He forgot the additional services, escort, porn, K Y Jel, manure etc.
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BMJ, that was some beautiful meta-data prose. I love it.
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BMJ, that was some beautiful meta-data prose. I love it.
Thanks! I just did a search for the site name; our forum isn't on the list yet, but it's pretty obvious they're spamming several forums judging from the results that are there at the moment. I bet our forum will have a higher page rank, and those nice contextual excerpts should include my choice adjectives.

Somehow this is feeling more fun than deleting the link. Lesson: don't post to popular sites that will quickly debunk you!
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Old 05-27-2006, 04:02 PM   #17
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Hello everybody,
I am an employee of the above mentioned company. I've found this post while performing a search on google.
I would like to pass some information about our company:
1. our location is Romania - Bucharest
2. our hosting providers: hostrocket.com - USA
3. our domain is registered to Denis V Strutinschi in Romania/Constanta and not Connecticut as mentioned in one of your posts
5. our goal is to reduce internet payment fraud and not to increase it
It seems that the first post of this topis is from one of our members. Feel free to consider it SPAM or whatever but labeling our company as fraud without any investigations of all, pushed me to post on this forum.
If you have any information about our company being involved in fraud please let us know. You can also check the legitimacy of our company with any institution in Romania. Our company registration number is 3395320, year of registration 1993. This is the link to the financial authority in Romania where you can check, you can simply enter the registration code: http://www.mfinante.ro/contribuabili...agenti_cod.htm.
If you have any further questions feel free to contact us by email or phone, we'll be happy to answer.
Thanks for your attention!

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The addresses have a country code of "US", but upon closer inspection the postal code doesn't look like a U.S. postal code, and the phone number appears to be non-U.S.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22mondopay.com%22

That is a google search for sites mentioning mondopay.com. The results are full of forum posts at different forums by a user with 1-6 total posts. (I looked at about 20 of them.) That is called an astroturf campaign (false grass roots) and is a form of organized spamming, and we don't appreciate it.

Perhaps if "your members" would ask about mondopay on forums on which they are already established you wouldn't seem so suspect. There is also the problem that your domain is new as of March and upon first glance you seem to have no big name behind you.

All these factors together work against your credibility. People don't join forums to ask one question about a new money service nobody's ever heard of.

If your company wishes to advertise on this site, they can do so via Google AdWords.

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Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
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Domain Name: MONDOPAY.COM
Registrar: BULKREGISTER, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.bulkregister.com
Referral URL: http://www.bulkregister.com
Name Server: DNS2.HRNOC.NET
Name Server: DNS1.HRNOC.NET
Status: ACTIVE
EPP Status: ok
Updated Date: 03-Mar-2006
Creation Date: 03-Mar-2006
Expiration Date: 03-Mar-2007

>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 27 May 2006 17:52:29 EDT <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
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mondopay.com
Constanta
Constanta, CT 8700
US

Domain Name: MONDOPAY.COM

Administrative Contact -
V,Strutinschi Denis - xennox@gmail.com
mondopay.com
Constanta
Constanta, CT 8700
US
Phone - +40722151112
Fax -
Technical Contact -
V,Strutinschi Denis - xennox@gmail.com
mondopay.com
Constanta
Constanta, CT 8700
US
Phone - +40722151112
Fax -
Billing Contact -
V,Strutinschi Denis - xennox@gmail.com
mondopay.com
Constanta
Constanta, CT 8700
US
Phone - +40722151112
Fax -

Record update date - 2006-03-03 13:09:50
Record create date - 2006-03-03
Record will expire on - 2007-03-03
Database last updated on - 2006-05-27 17:52:32 EST

Domain servers in listed order:

DNS1.HRNOC.NET 216.120.225.19
DNS2.HRNOC.NET 216.120.238.254

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I forgot to mention that this forum is the second link in that Google search, just after the site itself.

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I found mondopay.com instead, another similar service, but more reliable and ... I thought about editing it, but the untrustworthy mondopay.com domain has ...
early-retirement.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=fdf393f3050b9899fa2f86f553c047 80&topic=7556.msg135615 - 72k -
Go away astroturfers!

By the way, I was careful not to do any actual accusations. I hope I made it clear that I haven't used this service and laid out what my concerns were.
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We are currently offering an affiliate program to our members. That's why you can find lots of links to our site on different forums. We strongly advise our members not to use spam when referring. I wouldn't consider the first post of this topic as SPAM, though. The user 'ranchyou' has only 1(one) post on your forum and his post doesn't contain a link or any other form of directing visitors to our website. This is why, from our point of view, the post cannot be considered SPAM.
We are not currently checking your forum often, so please, if you have any notice of spam regarding our website please email: support@mondopay.com.
We apologize if our member 'ranchyou' caused any inconvenience on your forum. He has been contacted regarding this topic.
Thank you!
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