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Old 08-06-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
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Vanguard funds' track record

I know how much FD looooovveeesss Vanguard, so:

In a challenging market, a satisfying track record:

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Although the past year has been a difficult one for most investors, with returns down significantly across all major asset classes, Vanguard® mutual funds' long-term track records remain robust. Over the past decade, more than 80% of our funds outperformed their competitors and a majority of Vanguard funds beat the competition over shorter periods as well.
Check out the MM and bond charts. Talk about cost mattering, F.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:52 PM   #2
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Those are amazing statistics that reinforce why all of my investments are with Vanguard.
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I know how much FD looooovveeesss Vanguard, so:

In a challenging market, a satisfying track record:



Check out the MM and bond charts. Talk about cost mattering, F.
Hey, how about a THIRD PARTY article? I can go on ANY proprietary website and read that kind of stuff........
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Yahbut...as far as I know vanguard doesnt do fund incubation and scuttling of their losers. And they only have one really suckball loser.

Besides, 3rd party news folks arent interested in writing an article about how low costs and good asset allocation produces steady results. They wanna write about the new hot fund that made 20% a year over the last 3 years!!!!!!!!!!
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Yahbut...as far as I know vanguard doesnt do fund incubation and scuttling of their losers. And they only have one really suckball loser.

Besides, 3rd party news folks arent interested in writing an article about how low costs and good asset allocation produces steady results. They wanna write about the new hot fund that made 20% a year over the last 3 years!!!!!!!!!!
Been perusing your Money Magazine, have ya??
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Hmmm - as an ex engineer and I do mean ex - why do you need any stinking numbers anyway.

Follow the logic of index funds. Keep the faith baby.

That way you don't have to waste time noodling numbers.

heh heh heh - speaking handgenade and tongue in cheek wise.
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Been perusing your Money Magazine, have ya??
Nah, I dont look at financial porn anymore. Last time I read money/fortune was in 2002 in my doctors office, and it was a 1998 or 1999 issue exclaiming that Enron, Worldcom, Tyco and their ilk were "super blue chip stocks that will continue to produce huge returns and simply must be held in every portfolio no matter what the share price".

That was plenty good enough for me to realize that nobody has a frickin clue and the last thing you oughta do is what the experts tell you.

Although I did make a few grand fast trading enron shares when they were down in the 50c/70c range right around the bankruptcy. And I'll bet you guys thought the silly rabbit was a conservative investor Eh, and I owned some tyco and rode it down for a small loss when I figured it just couldnt get any cheaper for such a good business. Had I known more about the costs of cake and shower curtains I'd have avoided it.

Back to the OP...when you're playing with cash/bonds or even balanced funds that might have a 3-4% return after taxes and inflation...costs really matter a lot...its easy to give up 25-50% of your actual investment earnings to someone who doesnt really know any more than you do.
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to the OP...when you're playing with cash/bonds or even balanced funds that might have a 3-4% return after taxes and inflation...costs really matter a lot...its easy to give up 25-50% of your actual investment earnings to someone who doesnt really know any more than you do.
Which is why I ALSO use low cost funds...........
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Yeah, but who's your financial advisor?

I should probably advise you to be very careful with your response...

Then....wait for it!
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Yeah, but who's your financial advisor?

I should probably advise you to be very careful with your response...

Then....wait for it!
You are one funny dude, dude.........
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I anticipated that to be your answer.

Sooo...two options from here:

Option #1:

Oh! Dont tell me you're doing it yourself?!?

Does a surgeon operate on himself? Is it a good idea for a lawyer to represent himself?!?

You're too close to the situation to make good emotional decisions. You should find a pro.

Option #2:

Do you charge yourself a fee to work on your own portfolio? If so, what do you do with the money? Do you feel guilty about charging yourself a fee when you know your client knows as much as you do about investing and could have done as good a job on his own?

I've got a third option, but I think I'll hold it for a later opportunity.
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"Does a surgeon operate on himself? Is it a good idea for a lawyer to represent himself?!?"

I love that one.
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"Does a surgeon operate on himself? Is it a good idea for a lawyer to represent himself?!?"
Weakest argument for hiring a FA, ever.

I'd buy the emotional argument for having a FA, but thats about the only reason.
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"Does a surgeon operate on himself? Is it a good idea for a lawyer to represent himself?!?"
I don't call a doctor when I get the flu, or call a lawyer when
I get a speeding ticket either. What a stupid argument.
Lawyers require 3 years of additional education, doctors 4,
a financial planner? 6 weeks?!
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Okay fellas, gather round and take a knee.

It was a joke. I was having a little fun at FD's expense, somewhat reduced in entertainment value because he pretty much knew it was coming.

Now get yet helmets back on and get back on the field. Oh, and give me a lap.
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Should I believe that?

(I know it's a command not a statement, but should I trust it?)
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Should I believe that?

(I know it's a command not a statement, but should I trust it?)
Hey, it's the Internet, it's YOUR choice..........
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Hey, it's the Internet, it's YOUR choice..........
As a FA, you must be trying to sell me something though... now what were you saying about EIAs?
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