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Old 05-24-2010, 07:15 AM   #21
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Enlisted in February 1967. Got out in February 1971. Guess I'm one with a "split decision" ...

Oh well, I'll just let them figure it out in another 7.5 years when I'm 70, and claim SS...
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:49 AM   #22
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DD-214 request

Veterans, to get a copy of all your DD-214's go to:


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Old 05-24-2010, 10:28 AM   #23
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Gumby,

Thanks for reviving this topic.

I would not count on SS to automatically credit my earnings during my service years so I will check with the SSA to verify.

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2soon, please let us know what you find out and what you had to do to get the info.
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This is correct.
In my case (all service after 1967), I have verified that the SS calculation (in my annual estimate) does make this calculation automatically, so nothing needs to be done. They know you were in the military, and they have made the correction to give you the benefit.
It's not much, but better than nothing.


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Thanks Gumby.

When I ER... I will have a total of 35 years of actual earnings... so when I apply for SS it should help out a little.

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Special Extra Earnings for Military Service
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This is correct.
In my case (all service after 1967), I have verified that the SS calculation (in my annual estimate) does make this calculation automatically, so nothing needs to be done.
How did you verify?
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Visited the local SS office.
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I found a copy of my 1986 tax return and with it my W-2 from 1986. I spent the entire year of 1986 on Active Duty, USAF. My W-2 shows my taxable base pay was $26,892. My most current Social Security statement from Jan '10. Shows in 1986 my taxed Social Security earnings were $26,892.

The automatically added is quite suspect in my mind. There is nothing on my 1986 W-2 indicating I was active duty military vs. a DOD civilian.
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Guess the only way to be sure is contact the SSA like braumeister did and see if they can verify it for you.
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I just got off the phone with the Social Security Office in Portsmouth NH. They were very helpful. Here is what I gleaned:

Any additional earnings credit for military members is NOT shown on your annual Social Security Statement.

Projected earnings do NOT reflect the additional veteran earnings credits.

You NEED to be sure to let them know you were on active duty to be sure any additional income credit is used to compute your social security benefit payment.

You should bring a copy of your DD214 with you when you apply.

The automatic part of this happens after you apply and they CONFIRM you were on active duty.
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That's good to know. Sounds like the SS has as much consistency between representatives as the IRS does!
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Just for fun I added up my Social Security earnings from my most recent statement. If I add $1200 a year for the 7 years of service it increases my overall lifetime earnings by .008. If one extrapolates this to mean a .008 increase in my SS benefit estimate we are taking about an extra $11 a month at age 62. Already spent more time on today than it was worth
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Just for fun I added up my Social Security earnings from my most recent statement. If I add $1200 a year for the 7 years of service it increases my overall lifetime earnings by .008. If one extrapolates this to mean a .008 increase in my SS benefit estimate we are taking about an extra $11 a month at age 62. Already spent more time on today than it was worth
Yep. Unless you were a very low earner, that additional $1200 per year isn't going to make much difference to the average vet who served 3-4 years.
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I did the calculation, too. For me, it's just over a 1% increase in my monthly payment at age 70, which is when I plan to start receiving SS. Enough to buy a nice dinner at my favorite restaurant, so I'm not complaining.
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I still have my original DD214. I can remember being told: Make sure you keep this document... you will need it!

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I did the calculation, too. For me, it's just over a 1% increase in my monthly payment at age 70, which is when I plan to start receiving SS. Enough to buy a nice dinner at my favorite restaurant, so I'm not complaining.
Better that you get to eat that dinner than someone else spending it on a bailout!!! You earned it.
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I still have my original DD214. I can remember being told: Make sure you keep this document... you will need it!
Me too...mine is now 32 years old.
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I still have my original DD214. I can remember being told: Make sure you keep this document... you will need it!
When I was discharged, one of the first things I did was had the DD214 taken to the county recorder (the one who handles wills/deeds) and had it entered.

If it's ever lost or misplaced, my wife knows a copy is held there if it is ever needed in the future.

In our area, this service is done for no charge for any discharged vet...
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I just got off the phone with the Social Security Office in Portsmouth NH. They were very helpful. Here is what I gleaned:

Any additional earnings credit for military members is NOT shown on your annual Social Security Statement.

Projected earnings do NOT reflect the additional veteran earnings credits.

You NEED to be sure to let them know you were on active duty to be sure any additional income credit is used to compute your social security benefit payment.

You should bring a copy of your DD214 with you when you apply.

The automatic part of this happens after you apply and they CONFIRM you were on active duty.
Thanks for checking and reporting back to us.
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When I was discharged, one of the first things I did was had the DD214 taken to the county recorder (the one who handles wills/deeds) and had it entered.

If it's ever lost or misplaced, my wife knows a copy is held there if it is ever needed in the future.
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Believe it or not, this may not be a good idea.
By having it recorded this way, it becomes a public record. In most places, anyone can go there and freely read it. Since it contains your social security number, it might put you at increased risk of identity theft.

Not saying it's likely, but certainly something to consider. I've heard of many people who realized this potential problem and had to really jump through some bureaucratic hoops to have it removed (un-recorded).
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Since it contains your social security number, it might put you at increased risk of identity theft.
I was in back in the "old days" where a military ID was issued - no SS on the form.

Heck, I'll even give you part of it: "AFnnnnnnnn" (you can fill in the numbers )...
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