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What percentage of your net worth would you spend to have teeth?
06-14-2009, 08:01 PM
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I have a lot of teeth missing and wear dentures. I am leaning toward dental implants and crowns on existing teeth. My dentist recommends this. It is hideously expensive. My years left to chomp away is probably 20+-. It will have to come out of my retirement portfolio. We need a kitchen redo which will cost about the same but what good is a kitchen if you eventually would have to eat through a straw? So what is a good gauge as to how much I should spend on this?
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06-14-2009, 08:04 PM
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I nominate this as a candidate for best forum question of the year.
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06-14-2009, 08:05 PM
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I agree.
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06-14-2009, 08:19 PM
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Ok...I'll bite.... 1% maybe....
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06-15-2009, 10:32 AM
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This made me laugh pretty hard! thanks BBBAMI! I enjoy chewing things so um a small percentage. It cant cost me that much to get new teeth would it?
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06-15-2009, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger
I enjoy chewing things so um a small percentage. It cant cost me that much to get new teeth would it?
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It all depends on the size of your portfolio....
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06-15-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger
This made me laugh pretty hard! thanks BBBAMI! I enjoy chewing things so um a small percentage. It cant cost me that much to get new teeth would it?
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Sounds like someone is just chomping at the bit to get in the dentist chair, eh?
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06-15-2009, 12:06 PM
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Costa Rica is one place to go for dental work. My dental hygenist who is a USA citizen, worked as a hygenist there for a while. Going there for dental work is so common that I think that there must be people on this forum who have done this.
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06-14-2009, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cashflo2u2
I have a lot of teeth missing and wear dentures. I am leaning toward dental implants and crowns on existing teeth. My dentist recommends this. It is hideously expensive. My years left to chomp away is probably 20+-. It will have to come out of my retirement portfolio. We need a kitchen redo which will cost about the same but what good is a kitchen if you eventually would have to eat through a straw? So what is a good gauge as to how much I should spend on this?
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Eight years ago I got braces cost $5,000 and then because they moved teeth I had dental reconstruction cost $14,000 ( that included several crowns and a permanent partial ) . I went for a consult for dental implantation $30,000 and no guarantee that it would work but they turned me down not because of my Visa but because of my asthma . Only you can decide if it's worth it .
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06-14-2009, 08:28 PM
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Not sure the % but a kitchen remodel wouldn't even be a consideration when compared to the dental work you describe.
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06-14-2009, 09:31 PM
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In our little family group one went for removable implants starting in late October last year. The dentist said odds were that a smoker would have a 10% failure rate on the implants - on the good side, that caused smoking to stop, though now Commit lozenges are eaten to keep the nicotine flowing. Had remaining 20 teeth pulled and 12 posts placed (thought was that if non-removable implants were wanted later that the 4 unused posts could simply be uncovered and used as well). The dentist instructs and has 3 different offices, so the hope was that he would be good. It was not a good experience. All the teeth were pulled and posts placed, a set of horribly fitted teeth were slapped on the lacerated gums, and 5 months of misery ensued. We spent $26,300, after a 5% discount for cash and insurance payment. So far. The current set of removables looks and works pretty well, but i do not have warm feelings for the dentist. Food gets under the removables, which causes them to get ripped out of the face for cleaning. Permanent nonremovable implants require flossing between the posts, and i can only imagine how irritating transient food particles must be. The person who got the implants has a very high pain tolerance and had all her dental work except this done without novacaine or any pain meds, just sat and had 'em drilled & filled (Marathon Man: "is it safe?"). Shudder. These were done w/ an IV sedative - Versed?
Bottom line, if $30k resulted in teeth that made one happy, it would be money well spent - once spent it's done and behind you.
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06-14-2009, 09:38 PM
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In answer to the question, I regard my teeth to be just as much a part of me as my arms and legs. I am not willing to give arms, legs, or teeth up without a fight and I will spend whatever it takes for reasonable, recommended medical or dental treatment to keep my teeth/arms/legs.
My advice? Do without the kitchen. Get the teeth fixed.
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06-15-2009, 05:36 AM
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I need a MAYOR overhaul of my teeth. Upper ones gone. My current denture doesnīt adjust anymnore. The down ones are going the same way. To make things worse, I smoke and not planning to quit in the near future. My problem is not money. From what Iīve read so far dental work is much cheaper in Spain.
My problem is that Iīm scared s*****ss. I canĻt face the pain entailed in the whole process.Iīve only heard horror stories. Everybody has told me that they had suffered a lot in the process and some of them arenīt happy at all with the results.
So, irresponsible me is waiting until the last moment-when Iwonīt be able to eat any longer,because thereīs no middle of the way of the way preventive measure-Itīs taking the rest of the teeth out and put implants in a number enough to allow new dentures.
Answering the question-Having a decent smile and bein able to eat normally beats a remodelled kitchen any time.
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06-15-2009, 06:31 AM
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I'm suddenly inspired to go floss my teeth.
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06-15-2009, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Want2retire
In answer to the question, I regard my teeth to be just as much a part of me as my arms and legs. I am not willing to give arms, legs, or teeth up without a fight and I will spend whatever it takes for reasonable, recommended medical or dental treatment to keep my teeth/arms/legs.
My advice? Do without the kitchen. Get the teeth fixed.
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Ditto sentiment here. They say digestion starts in the mouth so teeth are just as much a functional medical issue as a cosmetic dentistry related one. I have a couple of crowns and also a dental implant. I can't tell the latter from any other tooth in my mouth.
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06-15-2009, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Want2retire
I am not willing to give arms, legs, or teeth up without a fight and I will spend whatever it takes for reasonable, recommended medical or dental treatment to keep my teeth/arms/legs.
My advice? Do without the kitchen. Get the teeth fixed.
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WantTo, good answer, but the real question I am asking is -how does one quantify what is a "reasonable" amount for their situation?
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06-15-2009, 08:48 PM
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The possibility of needing follow up care is definitely a consideration in thinking about medical/dental treatment overseas. I think I've changed my mind: I wouldn't do it.
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06-15-2009, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cashflo2u2
WantTo, good answer, but the real question I am asking is -how does one quantify what is a "reasonable" amount for their situation?
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By reasonable, I mean medically reasonable. I would talk to my dentist, get a consult, find out if the procedure is one that is commonly done for people in my situation and if it has a reasonable chance of being successful. (I know, there's that word "reasonable" again - - talk to your dentist). If it is something that is done all the time, and has a decent probability of saving my tooth, I would go ahead. I don't think that price is the issue, here.
You can always get more things, but you can't always get more body parts.
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06-16-2009, 10:02 AM
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Want2, thanks. Yes, I have even obtained a second opinion from another dentist. All very reasonable and now, given medical advances, dental implants even with bone grafts, if necessary, are common with success rates in the 90%+ for non smokers. The bone for the graft come from cadavers. But they tell me it is not like the old black and white scary movies with Boris Karloff running around at night grave robbing. I asked.
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06-15-2009, 07:22 AM
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Unless you have a profound kitchen fetish or you're talking about replacing the hand pump at the wash basin and the wood-fired stove, I don't see it's a race.
How will your quality of life increase/decrease if you do/do not have working teeth?
How will your quality of life increase/decrease if you do/do not modernize your kitchen?
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