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Old 09-28-2006, 10:46 AM   #21
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For those of us that are not as smart as you, would you explain the chart and why you believe that it indicates yields have bottomed.
It is not about being smarter then someone else it is all about looking at 2000-5000 charts a day over a number of years.*

Yields are very extended from their long term moving average.* You can expect yields to move higher.* In technical terms - pull back to the red line.* *
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Yields are very extended from their long term moving average.* You can expect yields to move higher.* In technical terms - pull back to the red line.* *
Maybe. Or maybe not. Gotta pull your head out of the technician's ass sand and look around at the fundamentals every once in a while.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:57 AM   #23
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Maybe.* Or maybe not.* Gotta pull your head out of the technician's ass sand and look around at the fundamentals every once in a while.
Ever hear the saying "fundamentals are for fools"?

Cramer says "charts are for fools".*

If you were truly looking at the fundamentals* then the 10 year rate should be over the fed fund rate of 5.25% and you would be out of bonds now, correct?*
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Fed fund rate 5.25%.

U.S. Treasury Bonds
Maturity Yield Yesterday Last Week Last Month Price Yield Chg Price Chg
3 Month 4.62 4.66 4.70 4.82 98.844 -.03 0.009
6 Month 4.77 4.76 4.79 4.90 97.599 0.01 -.008
2 Year 4.66 4.67 4.67 4.85 99.930 -.01 -.430
5 Year 4.57 4.55 4.57 4.75 100.219 0.02 -.102
10 Year 4.62 4.59 4.62 4.77 101.997 0.02 -.203
30 Year 4.76 4.73 4.77 4.92 95.856 0.02 -.414
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If you were truly looking at the fundamentals* then the 10 year rate should be over the fed fund rate of 5.25% and you would be out of bonds now, correct?*
Explin the "logic" behind that statement. Is it some sort of immutable natural law?
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Explin the "logic" behind that statement.* Is it some sort of immutable natural law?


brewer, you crack me up..................
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Fundamentally the longer the term the higher the yield you should receive for your risk.

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Fundamentally the longer the term the higher the yield you should receive for your risk.
Do you think your people will nominate Hillary for 2008?
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Do you think your people will nominate Hillary for 2008?
Checkmated, huh?
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Checkmated, huh?
Its more of a throwing up of hands. If that is about as far as your thoughts on the fundamentals go, I suggest you stick with Cramer and the charts.
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brewer12345, quit braying and explain your differing perspective.
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I suggest you stick with Cramer and the charts.
That is an oxymoron. Cramer trades on fundamentals and believes charts are for fools.
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Sorry if this question is too broad. *I'll be receiving 100k in about a month and I'd like to put it in a place that's relatively safe, that's not a MM account. * I have money already in a Vanguard Wellsely account and so far I'm very happy. *I'm thinking STAR or Wellington are good funds too. *Any other good recommendations on Vanguard funds which have consistent growth with low to medium volatility? *
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Time horizon = 5 years
Tax Status = married, adult children
Other investments = ~ 150K in 401K, ~70k in MM account, ~60k in Vanguard Wellsely account.* real estate holdings will be zero very soon.
Risk tolerance = Do not want to risk capital, so minimal tolerance.*
Generally that "minimal tolerance" phrase steers people to CDs & MMs. *Yet you're looking for a Vanguard growth fund which may or may not meet your volatility intentions.

What do you want for an asset allocation? *What about just adding to STAR or Wellesley? *If you didn't own them today, would you buy them? *Or are you trying to replace a real estate asset allocation with a REIT?

I'm not trying to steer anyone in a particular direction, but "Where to invest?" is as much an asset-allocation issue as it is a valuation question.
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That is an oxymoron.* Cramer trades on fundamentals and believes charts are for fools.*
Cramer trades on whatever he pulls out of his ass.
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It appears I stumbled on to this board in error. I will bow out now.
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It appears I stumbled on to this board in error.* I will bow out now.
Are you really that thin-skinned? Taking your ball and going home already?

Oh well.
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Now you're getting personal.
Heheheheh...

Not really intending to do that all along, honestly. Maybe the sleep deprivation is getting to me.
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Heheheheh...

Not really intending to do that all along, honestly. Maybe the sleep deprivation is getting to me.
Brewer, in this case I intend to lead by example. As soon as somebody admits to being a technician, I exit out of the conversation. I have no desire to argue about witchcraft.

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