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08-20-2012, 03:55 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Birmingham, AL
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I've been with Fidelity for the past couple of decades and service/execution, phone or internet, has been good. I also find their online tools and research to be useful.
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08-20-2012, 04:39 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 904
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I like Fidelity's retirement planning tools far better than Vanguard's. Vanguard's Financial Engine's tool has to be "tricked" if you are already retired and it comes up with a "safe" withdrawal amount that is far higher than Firecalc and just about anybody else's calculator hence I'm highly suspicious.
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08-20-2012, 05:04 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Madison
Posts: 213
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I have both Fido and Vanguard and like both. Fidelity has a new center near me and have seminars from time to time. The account manager they assigned me is very helpfully also. When I set up a withdrawal, it was easy to have both federal and state taxes taken out. Vanguard only allowed Federal.
They both have plus and minuses.
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08-20-2012, 05:17 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 3,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejman
Vanguard's Financial Engine's tool has to be "tricked" if you are already retired and it comes up with a "safe" withdrawal amount that is far higher than Firecalc and just about anybody else's calculator hence I'm highly suspicious.
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That's because you can't define/override the end date of the plan. VG's FE use standard longivity tables unlike FIRECalc or FIDO's RIP.
And yes, it returns higher annual spend rates; IOW it does not allow you to become conserative in your personal forecast.
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08-20-2012, 06:25 PM
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#25
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,413
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Originally Posted by Midpack
I'd recommend Vanguard, Fidelity or Schwab without reservation based on my personal,experience.
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+1
People will have their own individual preferences here based on their own priorities, but in reality I think it's hard to go wrong with any of these three.
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08-21-2012, 09:38 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,813
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejman
I like Fidelity's retirement planning tools far better than Vanguard's. Vanguard's Financial Engine's tool has to be "tricked" if you are already retired and it comes up with a "safe" withdrawal amount that is far higher than Firecalc and just about anybody else's calculator hence I'm highly suspicious.
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How do you trick Financial Engine's tool, if you are already retired? I find it irritating that you can't show a retirement date.
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08-21-2012, 10:12 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 904
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
How do you trick Financial Engine's tool, if you are already retired? I find it irritating that you can't show a retirement date.
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Under the tab YOUR PROFILE enter the retirement age. The program won't allow you to enter a retirement age earlier than your current age. Two ways around it - move your retirement forward or adjust your age to suit the program. Frankly I don't think this program is the right tool.
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08-21-2012, 11:35 AM
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#28
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejman
I like Fidelity's retirement planning tools far better than Vanguard's. Vanguard's Financial Engine's tool has to be "tricked" if you are already retired and it comes up with a "safe" withdrawal amount that is far higher than Firecalc and just about anybody else's calculator hence I'm highly suspicious.
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FE projects retirement income as an annuity with the premise that you plan to spend your portfolio before you die.
I only use FE as an asset allocation tool and funds evaluator rather than a retirement income calculator
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