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Old 06-18-2015, 04:26 PM   #21
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I doubt that they are trying hard to stay in the LTC business out of benevolence to the policyholders.

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Old 06-18-2015, 04:32 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by MichaelB View Post
Is there a clear set of conditions which, if met, the insurer must pay? Nords shared his experience with us a few years ago (I think it was this thread). His issue was not ambiguous language, it was getting the insurer to acknowledge their obligation to pay.
btw, I can't thank you enough for pointing me to the thread that Nords started about his experiences, and that so many others contributed to. The information there is invaluable!

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Old 06-18-2015, 04:53 PM   #23
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Also wanted to thank you merlin3942 for good solid information on you experience. Always food for thought.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:28 PM   #24
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merlin, the 10-pay option would mean that any premium increases they try to stick you with would have limited amounts of time to make any material difference to your total cost. I am astounded that you have found an insurer willing to write coverage for a lifetime (forever) coverage duration. Last I heard a couple years ago those policies were pretty much unobtainable.

If you do a deal like this, you will want an insurer with a very solid balance sheet. I would look for a minimum AA-/Aa3 claims paying rating, preferably from a mutual. Do you mind telling us who the insurer is?

The price sounds pretty darned steep to me. Before you sign on the dotted line, it might be worth doing a simple calculation. Assume you invest the premiums yourself over 10 years and earn a return of X%. How many months of coverage could you pay for out of pocket with the lump sum you would have accumulated?
If we've learned anything from the last couple decades of long-term care insurance claims, it's that insurers are evil or incompetent.

In Genworth's case, I'd say both.

BTW, Merlin, note that Brewer has not yet chimed in on Genworth's financial ability to pay claims. I think his silence tells you all you need to know, but when he gets back to this thread there will be no doubt of his opinion of their ability to pay.

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btw, I can't thank you enough for pointing me to the thread that Nords started about his experiences, and that so many others contributed to. The information there is invaluable!
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The reality is that you want an insurance company to make money from selling you a long-term care policy. (Otherwise they'd never be able to pay your claim.) However recent research indicates that much of the need for long-term care is already covered under Medicare limits, and end-of-life care is generally less expensive than the cost of long-term care insurance policy premiums.

In other words you're spending thousands of dollars to cover part of a very very small risk. Take a look at these two posts:
June 2015: Long-Term Care Insurance: Why We Aren't Buying It - Can I Retire Yet?
Dec 2014: Why I Won't Buy Long-Term Care Insurance - Military Guide

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Old 06-21-2015, 09:51 PM   #25
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I have LTC. $200 a day, + 4% per year inflation, indefinite. Didn't want to feel like I needed to die after 3 - 5 yrs. Life only lasts so long and I've seen what I call it unravel. I hope to enjoy the assets I have & then plan to use LTC for a move into assisted living later in life. LTC let's me do that on my terms. My Dad has used his for 8 yrs now. Great lifestyle! Huge penthouse where the family can gather. DH has the same option as I. This is part of our life plan/design. Family health history was a weighted factor in our decisions.

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