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Old 06-22-2016, 08:07 AM   #101
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Just 4 old Volvo's
1. 95/ 850 wagon with 355k on it and is the main work hose for house projects.
2. 97/ 960 sedan with 160K and is rear wheel drive. Great cruiser in the highway at 70-90 miles.
3. 98/ T5 with manual trans and only 100k. This is the toy car which I really enjoy to drive
4. 93/850 sedan with 190K and my son drives it to school.

I really enjoy having these cars because ~ 80% of the parts are inter changeable among them and my spare parts inventory can be small.
My first foreign car was a 71 142e, and later had an 84 Turbo, both were great cars.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:28 AM   #102
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My first foreign car was a 71 142e, and later had an 84 Turbo, both were great cars.

My first Volvo was 240 station wagon that I bought for 300 dollars and lasted me for 15 years. This was the car that brought me to Volvo brand.

I did have a 1986 760 turbo sedan which was kill by a snow plow. I had the car park by the curve and drive made a real wide turn and vended the car in half.
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You ever modify those turbo Volvos or saabs?
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You ever modify those turbo Volvos or saabs?
Not me, it remained stock.
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I like the new stuff. Fuel injectors, O2 sensors, DOHC and aluminum blocks.

Light, efficient and powerful.

The Chevy 327 was a good motor, one of the most hot rodded motors of all time. I had one in my 57 and the 4V Holly with single plane manifold and headers of course. Back in those days 1 HP/cu-in was high performance and a 300 HP 327 was a "fast" motor.

A 327 is a 5.5 liter engine. The current stock 3.5 liter Chevy V6 makes 300 HP. Not to mention you don't have to choke and puke from the stench of unburned hydrocarbons if you are behind one in traffic.

I'll take the new stuff, it's way better than the old stuff.
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I like the new stuff. Fuel injectors, O2 sensors, DOHC and aluminum blocks.

Light, efficient and powerful.

The Chevy 327 was a good motor, one of the most hot rodded motors of all time. I had one in my 57 and the 4V Holly with single plane manifold and headers of course. Back in those days 1 HP/cu-in was high performance and a 300 HP 327 was a "fast" motor.

A 327 is a 5.5 liter engine. The current stock 3.5 liter Chevy V6 makes 300 HP. Not to mention you don't have to choke and puke from the stench of unburned hydrocarbons if you are behind one in traffic.

I'll take the new stuff, it's way better than the old stuff.
sbcs are nice they just don't make as much power as the 4 cylinders

my 09 forester is probably pushing 350hp at the crank


I met a guy at the texas mile several years ago who had a 1000+ hp dsm inline 4 cyl
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:49 PM   #109
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You ever modify those turbo Volvos or saabs?
I've modified a few of my turbo Saabs - they respond pretty well to some light tuning. I have a "Stage 1" tune on both my 9-5 Aero wagon and on my 9000 - that adds about 40HP, which helps keep things interesting.

I did have a "Stage 3" tune on a previous 9000, which I loved. That required a 3" exhaust (cat back) so it made some good noises too!
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My experience with Honda was not so good. Bought a new 2000 Odyssey. They put a car transmission in those for several years. A friend had the same thing and his transmission lasted 85,000 miles. I was a little luckier with 140,000 miles. It was a known problem and they continued to sell them that way for several years.

My Jeep Wrangler with the new V6 is a real dog when it comes to torque, but it gets pretty good gas mileage. The old in line 6 Wrangler has a bunch more torque which makes it much nicer to drive, but poor gas mileage and I don't think they could get it to pass later emission requirements. In this case, the new engine isn't that great overall compared to the older one.
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My experience with Honda was not so good. Bought a new 2000 Odyssey. They put a car transmission in those for several years. A friend had the same thing and his transmission lasted 85,000 miles. I was a little luckier with 140,000 miles. It was a known problem and they continued to sell them that way for several years.

My Jeep Wrangler with the new V6 is a real dog when it comes to torque, but it gets pretty good gas mileage. The old in line 6 Wrangler has a bunch more torque which makes it much nicer to drive, but poor gas mileage and I don't think they could get it to pass later emission requirements. In this case, the new engine isn't that great overall compared to the older one.
Not picking on Hermit-but I want to note that it is GREAT we can complain about tranny's that "only" make it to 140k.
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Not picking on Hermit-but I want to note that it is GREAT we can complain about tranny's that "only" make it to 140k.
As I recall, even the "old" tranny's of the 60s and 70s often were good for 200k. In today's modern car, I would consider 140k a pretty short lifespan. I think that is shown in a lot of the posts in this thread.
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As I recall, even the "old" tranny's of the 60s and 70s often were good for 200k. In today's modern car, I would consider 140k a pretty short lifespan. I think that is shown in a lot of the posts in this thread.
For 60s and 70s cars 100k was decent for the car to survive. They usually had some sort of major issue popping up by then. Might be tranny, might be rust, engine, etc.

My 76 (which I still own) made it to 100k on the motor before a rebuild. 120k on the tranny.
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ImageUploadedByEarly Retirement Forum1466688772.699776.jpgduring the spring, summer, and fall months, I drive a Honda Grom. Otherwise, it's a 1999 Honda CR-V or 2012 Honda Odyssey. Can you tell I like Hondas.


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I like the new stuff. Fuel injectors, O2 sensors, DOHC and aluminum blocks.

Light, efficient and powerful.


I'll take the new stuff, it's way better than the old stuff.
Agree. I am not big on nostalgia and the new cars are way faster, safer, don't rust, more comfortable, more reliable, handle much better,etc. Not to mention new cars are generally cheaper on an inflation adjusted basis.

Many people want to relive their youth and try to make up for the fact they couldn't have these old cars at the time. I understand that. I view the old cars more as "art" than actual transportation.
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You ever modify those turbo Volvos or saabs?

I done just some minor stuff with the turbos, I shorten the waste gate rod to make it spool sooner.

I been planning on putting a stage 2 kit from IPD and that ought to make the T5 much more fun.
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Many people want to relive their youth and try to make up for the fact they couldn't have these old cars at the time. I understand that. I view the old cars more as "art" than actual transportation.
How very true the above statement is.

Nostalgia sells and old cars (and motorcycles) are an art form. An expensive habit that parallels what others spend on boats and RV's (I have friends who keep me current on their cash flow drains ).

I'd love to have another 1965 Corvette back again, but it's cost now (in the same condition as mine was in 1970) would be ~ $75,000. That's 39 times what I paid for mine.
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