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Old 10-08-2010, 05:59 PM   #61
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Another terrorist attack on US mainland

Major disruption in weather patterns - warmers winters, bigger hurricanes

Iran nuclear armed

$ depreciates by 50% against Euro and Yen

Bird flu virus mutates, hundreds of thousands die. Virus is contained.

UK joins the Euro. Turkey still out of EU, but Russia wants to join.

Taiwan on the verge of war with mainland China, Japan ready to intervene. Nuclear armed N Korea ready to retaliate.

A US tea party candidate becomes President, promises to nuke any nation supporting any new terrorist attack on US

Polar ice 50% disappeared

US violence at all time high, but too late for gun control

France and Germany, the two leading European powers, establish a common parliament and presidency

All travels to Mexico now banned because of gang related violence.
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What did you come up with?
In 10 years Dex will be back in the market.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:45 PM   #64
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Another terrorist attack on US mainland

Major disruption in weather patterns - warmers winters, bigger hurricanes

Iran nuclear armed

$ depreciates by 50% against Euro and Yen

Bird flu virus mutates, hundreds of thousands die. Virus is contained.

UK joins the Euro. Turkey still out of EU, but Russia wants to join.

Taiwan on the verge of war with mainland China, Japan ready to intervene. Nuclear armed N Korea ready to retaliate.

A US tea party candidate becomes President, promises to nuke any nation supporting any new terrorist attack on US

Polar ice 50% disappeared

US violence at all time high, but too late for gun control

France and Germany, the two leading European powers, establish a common parliament and presidency

All travels to Mexico now banned because of gang related violence.
Slowly, back away from the computer, grab an alcoholic beverage and step outside the house for a walk in the sunshine.
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Slowly, back away from the computer, grab an alcoholic beverage and step outside the house for a walk in the sunshine.
Yup. Time to chill big time.

Perhaps this will help. Always helps me get out of that dark place I sometimes find myself in.

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Old 10-09-2010, 06:56 AM   #67
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I just finished a book called "The Rational Optimist." The thesis is that things get better and better, despite all the doom and gloom from so-called experts.
He gives lots of rationale. Here's the author's (Matt Ridley) link.

Hope springs in Wells | The Rational Optimist

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The thesis is that things get better and better, despite all the doom and gloom from so-called experts.
I believe this, but I don't think I want others to. We are going to need to concentrate on some big upcoming problems, and pessimism will help keep us focused. I don't see how optimism can help but lead to complacency.
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I just finished a book called "The Rational Optimist." The thesis is that things get better and better, despite all the doom and gloom from so-called experts.
He gives lots of rationale. Here's the author's (Matt Ridley) link.
This is all true for the general population and don't focus on an individual person's life span.

A single person is not the general population.
The above is true if you can live through.
WW1, WW2, etc
Not one of the 12million killed in Nazi Concentration camps
Black in USA born in 1920 and earlier
Not one of th 60M? starved/killed in the Cultural Revolution
An English person in England as the British Empire declined
Were not a pensioner in the USSR when in collapsed
Not one of the apx 2 billion in the world now who subsist on about $1-2 dollars a day.

If you never die and don't need to eat then you can survive anything and when you are at the bottom things can only look up. If a person identifies themselves with the 'haves' rather than the 'have nots' then the the 'thesis' can work.

I find such pronouncements (found in the links) offensive because they ignore the pain and suffering of the individual - past, present and future. If a the pessimist can be faulted for focusing on the 'bad' at least their view encompasses, and acknowledges the situation of the oppressed.
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... because they ignore the pain and suffering of the individual - past, present and future.
That is hardly fair to the optimists' thesis, which is that things are getting better, not that they are wonderful. Individuals have not started suffering just recently.
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This is all true for the general population and don't focus on an individual person's life span.

A single person is not the general population.
The above is true if you can live through.
WW1, WW2, etc
Not one of the 12million killed in Nazi Concentration camps
Black in USA born in 1920 and earlier
Not one of th 60M? starved/killed in the Cultural Revolution
An English person in England as the British Empire declined
Were not a pensioner in the USSR when in collapsed
Not one of the apx 2 billion in the world now who subsist on about $1-2 dollars a day.

If you never die and don't need to eat then you can survive anything and when you are at the bottom things can only look up. If a person identifies themselves with the 'haves' rather than the 'have nots' then the the 'thesis' can work.

I find such pronouncements (found in the links) offensive because they ignore the pain and suffering of the individual - past, present and future. If a the pessimist can be faulted for focusing on the 'bad' at least their view encompasses, and acknowledges the situation of the oppressed.
This is why I find the rah-rah of "I got mine through hard work" and the USA penchant for believing we're somehow superior, ordained by gawd, and immune from these sorts of things to be both callous and delusional. Manifest destiny, my eye.

That's not to say that "democracy" and "free-market capitalism" aren't the "best" systems, just that they are not the historical norm, and take work to build and maintain. They don't exist and/or work "just because"...
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Another terrorist attack on US mainland

Major disruption in weather patterns - warmers winters, bigger hurricanes

Iran nuclear armed

$ depreciates by 50% against Euro and Yen

Bird flu virus mutates, hundreds of thousands die. Virus is contained.

UK joins the Euro. Turkey still out of EU, but Russia wants to join.

Taiwan on the verge of war with mainland China, Japan ready to intervene. Nuclear armed N Korea ready to retaliate.

A US tea party candidate becomes President, promises to nuke any nation supporting any new terrorist attack on US

Polar ice 50% disappeared

US violence at all time high, but too late for gun control

France and Germany, the two leading European powers, establish a common parliament and presidency

All travels to Mexico now banned because of gang related violence.
Sounds like we are on track for another normal 10 year cycle.
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Another terrorist attack on US mainland

Major disruption in weather patterns - warmers winters, bigger hurricanes

Iran nuclear armed

$ depreciates by 50% against Euro and Yen

Bird flu virus mutates, hundreds of thousands die. Virus is contained.

UK joins the Euro. Turkey still out of EU, but Russia wants to join.

Taiwan on the verge of war with mainland China, Japan ready to intervene. Nuclear armed N Korea ready to retaliate.

A US tea party candidate becomes President, promises to nuke any nation supporting any new terrorist attack on US

Polar ice 50% disappeared

US violence at all time high, but too late for gun control

France and Germany, the two leading European powers, establish a common parliament and presidency

All travels to Mexico now banned because of gang related violence.
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