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Old 07-16-2010, 04:17 PM   #41
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I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly, all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of restraint.
That's Hesiod as in the Greek poet, circa 700 BCE. About 100 generations have come and gone since...
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:24 PM   #42
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:45 PM   #43
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And that is my point... a long life of ups and downs... and some downs where there was no food to eat... this down will go away in my lifetime (at least I hope I continue to live!!!)... and life will be a bowl of cherries again... and later in my life.... we will have another downturn with hand wringing and doom and gloom... so that is why I do not worry to much about the state we are in... it will be fixed when enough of the people want it changed.... I for one want it changed NOW... but even if it is not, I will be happy in my life... If I lose everything... I will find a way to keep alive and... hopefully be happy....


Texas, I appreciate you serious post and agree with what you say, and with most of what has been said in this thread. My main point is technical. I donít equate speculating on or analysis of political economy to handwringing. The pen is a mighty instrument, and there is no reason that I or anyone else should refrain from speaking up about what to me at least appear to be glaringly wrong turns, just because I donít know how or don't have the power to remedy them. The same skills than can clearly enunciate or point out something are not necessarily the right ones to remedy it, and for that matter vice versa also holds.

For most of us a far larger component of personal happiness will be our personal health and how we are treated by people who are close to us. Still, there is room for less personal intellectual concern and involvement.

In American culture, a perennially popular shut-up tactic is to call one who mentions a flaw in the body politic a hand wringer, or suggest that oneís glass should be half full, or that one shouldnít hide under his bed. These are simply red herrings, and can easily dismissed by any reader of even middling education or experience.

Perhaps the following is not true of most posters, but I post on practical things, occasional personal things, and also on impersonal aspects of political economy. To me the distinction is fairly obvious.

If anyone is worried that I am getting morose, be assured that I am not. Last night was the third time this week that I went out dancing, and I have a date tonight, my relationships are good and casi todo estŠ bien.



I guess I have never completely lost my taste for college bull sessions or classrom discussions.

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I have always respected your point of view and I hope you don't change the stuff you want to share or feel is relevant to us all

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I will only worry if you sell PM and start posting about how you had a delicious bowl of Ramen noodles the previous night
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Wow, he's still posting on ER.org 100 generations later!
What's his SWR? And waht does he do all day?

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I guess I have never completely lost my taste for college bull sessions or classrom discussions.

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I enjoy discussions like these, but I find that there's so much extreme polarization these days (though it may not actually be any worse than previous times) that a "discussion", i.e. one that might actually come to a compromise agreement, is difficult...

The current and recent past presidents are prime examples. Satan both...

High public and private debt, religious and political extremism, pollution and "climate change", inflation (deflation?), bird flu, swine flu, overpopulation...

And I can't find a moderately conservative rep or president who could be elected, because they wouldn't "energize the base"...
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I stumbled upon another disturbing piece like that.

There are "pogroms against bankers" and taxes are too high, therefore "the political equality of the citizen must be ended"?! Who is paying these guys?

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Oog. A 'rentier political class'? "The only lasting solution to the plague of unlimited democracy is to attack democracy at it's moral foundation: the political equality of the citizen."

I'm not entirely sure that this would be a place I'd be happy living in. A glorified feudal state might not be the best place for early retirement, unless I were part of the landed aristocracy, of course.

That's the fun thing about free speech, though. We can express whatever ideas the little voices in our heads come up with, and others are free to ignore them, find entertainment, or engage in the fine art of dialectic.

Me? I like to watch...
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The current and recent past presidents are prime examples. Satan both...

High public and private debt, religious and political extremism, pollution and "climate change", inflation (deflation?), bird flu, swine flu, overpopulation...

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Why Earthquakes Rock Democracies Less

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In a democracy, leaders must maintain the confidence of large portions of the population in order to stay in power. To do so, they need to protect the people from natural disasters by enforcing building codes and ensuring that bureaucracies are run by competent administrators. When politicians fail to deliver -- by, for example, letting too many die in disasters -- they lose their jobs. On average, 39 percent of democracies experience anti-government protests within any two-year period. The rate almost doubles after a major earthquake (defined as one that results in more than 200 casualties). And whereas 40 percent of democratic nations replace their leader in any two-year period, between 1976 and 2007, 91 percent of them did so following a major earthquake.
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Indeed, a lack of political will to confront disasters plagues nondemocratic regimes, which, unlike democratic governments, do not rely on popular support. As in democracies, the rate of anti-government protests almost doubles after major earthquakes, but the rate at which the governments are deposed does not increase by nearly as much -- from 22 percent over any two-year period to 24 percent following a major earthquake. Democratically elected leaders are highly sensitive to casualties from natural disasters, but nondemocratic leaders are not. And, indeed, the latter do a poor job of protecting their citizens from Mother Nature.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:41 PM   #50
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