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Old 04-30-2007, 07:13 PM   #41
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It's hard to find a vehicle that hauls longboards & sheets of 4'x8' plywood while fitting in a two-car garage and getting 22 mpg.
You can get 4x8 panels inside? It is a wagon I guess? Something like this would be handy for me for a while because I am doing some repair work.

In 1994 I bought an '88 Taurus froim my mother for the low book of $3200. It had 28,000 mils and my wife drove it for almost another 150,00 as she was commuting RT 120+ miles to go to school. We spent less than $1500 in repairs and sold it for $500. SOme of those Tauruses can really keep going.

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Re: 3/21/07 Wall St. Journal: Retiring abroad; oceanfront;bouncing around; etc.
Old 04-30-2007, 07:18 PM   #42
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You can get 4x8 panels inside? It is a wagon I guess? Something like this would be handy for me for a while because I am doing some repair work.
Yep-- beater wagon. The kind of car a thief looks at and then tucks a $20 under the wiper. It's also the perfect starter vehicle for a kid who's counting down the 365.5 days remaining to her learner's permit.

The 4x8s fit exactly; I think it was a design spec. But when the dashboard plastic rots out, the upholstery rips, the plastic trim crumbles in your hand... then I can't help wondering if it might be better to just buy anything that can handle a soft roof rack.
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Re: 3/21/07 Wall St. Journal: Retiring abroad; oceanfront;bouncing around; etc.

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Yep-- beater wagon. The kind of car a thief looks at and then tucks a $20 under the wiper. It's also the perfect starter vehicle for a kid who's counting down the 365.5 days remaining to her learner's permit.
4 years ago, I got so sick of my 93 Ford Chateau Van's reliability, I sold it. But I missed the utility of a full size van so started looking for a replacement. A year later I found a 93 Chevy Van with 94Kmiles. The exterior was in good shape. It was mechanically sound, and it had a 6 cylinder engine. The interior is a mess. Bought if for $2,500. Ripped out and rebuilt the interior for $1,000. That was 3 years ago. Today the van is at 140Kmiles, consumes 1 gallons every 18 miles. And is "very" reliable compared to the Ford's. Total repair and maintenance in the last 3 years is about $1,000. Oh yeah, no problem with any kind of lumber, and I never sleep on the ground when camping.

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4 years ago, I got so sick of my 93 Ford Chateau Van's reliability, I sold it. But I missed the utility of a full size van so started looking for a replacement. A year later I found a 93 Chevy Van with 94Kmiles. The exterior was in good shape. It was mechanically sound, and it had a 6 cylinder engine. The interior is a mess. Bought if for $2,500. Ripped out and rebuilt the interior for $1,000. That was 3 years ago. Today the van is at 140Kmiles, consumes 1 gallons every 18 miles. And is "very" reliable compared to the Ford's. Total repair and maintenance in the last 3 years is about $1,000. Oh yeah, no problem with any kind of lumber, and I never sleep on the ground when camping.

Sam, what engine and tranny did you get? Maybe there is only one V-6, I don't know the line at all.

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Taurus' have been incredible bargains. About three years ago, my parents could not sell one with only about 50K miles on it for 6K, and it was not old. I couldn't believe it. It was in perfect condition. I think buying mid-size used American cars can be a great cheap car strategy.

In my ER budget, I figured fairly low mileage of around 6K per year, and total transport costs of about $350/month (includes a little public transport, all other car costs including registration). Also included in that number is a little bit to account for the possibility of it getting stolen, insurance deductibles, and traffic ticket payments (hey, I'm thorough) -- I only buy liability insurance. This budget assumed buying used cars only. If I were buying new and driving more typically, the costs would certainly be higher, but even this is around $4000/year. Also, many need a bigger yard, parking spaces, or garage because they have cars.

If I were carless and renting a car about once a month and paying for non-owner's liability insurance (~$400 per year), my total transport costs would probably be closer to 100 bucks a month.

When I recently ER'ed, I mentally set aside $1000 for deferred car maintenance on my 11 year old car. Now I have to get my A/C fixed, reattach my rear view mirror, send in my auto registration (luckily no smog check this year), get my oil changed, water coolant changed, and it is overdue for an entire tuneup. I am also nervous about not having umbrella insurance. When I leave for travel in the fall I will pay $20/month to store my car and have to call the insurance company to put my insurance on standby and maybe my registration, too. All of that is a lot of work and it is not fun! I have considered just selling it, but the resale value of such an old car is pretty low, and it runs perfectly.

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It's not really only the savings potential when you do not have a car. It's the time that you free up not having to worry about car related things. However, as already mentioned, you really need to be in a city that has a great mass transit system. At least in Singapore that certainly is the case. Also, when you're out driving a car in a foreign country, you miss out so much on the culture in a country, and even in the US, you miss out on the pulse of things in your own country.
We're on the same page here, Rob. You put it very clearly.

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I'm looking forward to spending my retirement in Singapore, but if I see a one to 6 month opportunity in Thailand, Malaysia or anywhere else to teach or work with the needy, I'll do it. The problem with Thailand is that I have heard that you need to be under 60 to work there. I'm sure there are many ways around that, but I'd sure like to to be official that you could be over 60 and work. There was something advertised on the web about working with Burmese refugees. It sounded very appealing.
Rob you might want to check out the Chiang Mai Ex-Pat's Club http://www.chiangmaiexpatsclub.com/ and see what info they have there for you. There are forums listed where you might pick some local ex-pats' brains or simply write them an email at: info@chiangmaiexpatsclub.com

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Sam, what engine and tranny did you get? Maybe there is only one V-6, I don't know the line at all.

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Ha, it's a 4.3 liter V-6 engine matched to a 4 speed automatic.
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