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Old 09-15-2009, 08:53 AM   #21
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The visiting person already made a fool of himself in front of the congregation by singling you out for "punishment".
Don't join him by responding in kind.

Sorry this happened to you. It must have been very embarassing to be attacked in front of your peers.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:01 AM   #22
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This is just another one of those "early retirement is selfish" kind of rants, I think.

Frankly, I don't see why it's selfish to give away your j*b to someone who needs it more than you do, but maybe that's just me...
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Basically this guy preached that Christians should work at something till they drop dead. Anybody who doesn't is questionable. .
Sounds like you're dramatizing this situation a bit cashflo....... What did the substitute preacher actually say (as opposed to what he "basically" said)? Did he/she specifically say that "Christians should work at something" means working at a job for wages? Or could he/she have meant volunteer work or other activities that could help others? Was the term "questionable" actually used? Or are you again paraphrasing what was actually said?

In any case, since whatever happened seems to have gotten under your skin and set you off, why not just spend your Sunday mornings doing something else? The church owes you nothing and you owe the church nothing. Walk your own path and put this behind you. Life is way, way too short to let a few words spoken by a substitute preacher (or lay person, you didn't really say) get you all riled up.
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Frankly, I don't see why it's selfish to give away your j*b to someone who needs it more than you do, but maybe that's just me...
So Zig, why are you being selfish by keeping your job when many others need it more than you do?
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I'm with you! I would gladly give my job and those brussel sprouts on my plate to the next person clamoring for them!
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I'm with you! I would gladly give my job and those brussel sprouts on my plate to the next person clamoring for them!
And you should! Not to pile on...... But you folks that just keep working and working and working and working for da man.......
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Here's the really scary part - someone was actually awake and listening to a sermon ?
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Interesting. I always wondered what ministers found as topics to talk about every Sunday, week in and week out.
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Interesting. I always wondered what ministers found as topics to talk about every Sunday, week in and week out.
I'm surprised they moved on to criticizing retirement. I mean they do have a whole big thick book full of source material to discuss. Why couldn't they just stick to their good book?
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I'm with you! I would gladly give my job and those brussel sprouts on my plate to the next person clamoring for them!
Hey brussel sprouts are awesome! Damn now I got me a hankering for some lemon butter sprouts.
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See, you made my point for me, NML--they aren't good unless they've been slathered up with butter!
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See, you made my point for me, NML--they aren't good unless they've been slathered up with butter!
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Interesting. I always wondered what ministers found as topics to talk about every Sunday, week in and week out.
That's what you have to always wonder about up there? Boy....... When we're up there in the non-snow seasons I've questioned what folks must do during the "long darkness." If that's it, whew....... ya gotta get a life! Why not obcess about something worthwhile like whether the ice will be out in the bays on Big Winnie for the walleye opener?
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If your whole life is a sin because you retired early (or at all), you might as well really be a sinner and skip church on Sundays...
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Why not obcess about something worthwhile like whether the ice will be out in the bays on Big Winnie for the walleye opener?
Why are you obsessing about what people are obsessing about
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Why are you obsessing about what people are obsessing about
Because "piling on" and obcessing are part of the culture of this board. I'm just trying to be a team player and march lockstep with the rest of the posters.
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See, you made my point for me, NML--they aren't good unless they've been slathered up with butter!
And, need I say, bacon...
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The guy probably read Max Weber. From Wikipedia
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The Protestant Work Ethic, sometimes called the Puritan Work Ethic, is a sociological, theoretical concept. It is based upon the notion that the Calvinist emphasis on the necessity for hard work is proponent of a person's calling and worldly success is a sign of personal salvation. It is argued that Protestants beginning with Martin Luther had reconceptualised worldly work as a duty which benefits both the individual and society as a whole. Thus, the Catholic idea of good works was transformed into an obligation to work diligently as a sign of grace.
And, of course, idle hands are the devil's workshop or the like.
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