truenorth418
Full time employment: Posting here.
This post is inspired by the recent “Do You Talk with Friends about FIRE?” post. Sorry it’s a bit long, but I’d be interested in your perspectives on this variation.
One of my best friends works for a major company. He is whip smart, but it is a competitive industry and he has a tough territory. He was placed on a 100 day performance plan which is now over, and it is likely that he will be terminated soon. He is 50 years old. He would probably have a tough time finding a similar position elsewhere. He is pretty worried.
His approach to personal finance has been quite different than mine. We both live in expensive cities, but he has a cool apartment in town plus a nice beach house where he spends most weekends. As a result, I don’t think he has much money saved, maybe around $50k, and he spent down his 401(k) to almost nothing the last time he was out of work a few years ago. If he were to lose this job and not get another one soon, I think he would be forced to make some very hard lifestyle choices. Selling the beach house, for example, would be a huge blow to his self-esteem.
On the other hand, I have lived a frugal existence for a long time so that when I was laid off two years ago I was actually pretty relieved. I was basically FI and ready to ER - both financially and emotionally. But I kept my FIRE plans to myself, shying away from the subject with my close friends. Why? First, there was an outside chance I would return to the workforce and I thought I would look pretty ridiculous declaring my “early retirement” and then heading back to work. Second, and more importantly, I did not want to go around bragging and shoving my financial independence in peoples’ faces. I was 47 years old when I left the workforce. I do not personally know anybody who has retired at such a young age.
So, back to my friend who is about to lose his job. Although I have not shared details of my financial position with him, he is beginning to catch on that I no longer need to work. I don’t think our friendship is in jeopardy as a result of our different financial positions. But I feel sorry for him and would like to give him emotional support and advice during this crisis even though he may be a little uncomfortable with the differences in our situations.
Any thoughts, recommendations, or similar experiences you would like to share?
One of my best friends works for a major company. He is whip smart, but it is a competitive industry and he has a tough territory. He was placed on a 100 day performance plan which is now over, and it is likely that he will be terminated soon. He is 50 years old. He would probably have a tough time finding a similar position elsewhere. He is pretty worried.
His approach to personal finance has been quite different than mine. We both live in expensive cities, but he has a cool apartment in town plus a nice beach house where he spends most weekends. As a result, I don’t think he has much money saved, maybe around $50k, and he spent down his 401(k) to almost nothing the last time he was out of work a few years ago. If he were to lose this job and not get another one soon, I think he would be forced to make some very hard lifestyle choices. Selling the beach house, for example, would be a huge blow to his self-esteem.
On the other hand, I have lived a frugal existence for a long time so that when I was laid off two years ago I was actually pretty relieved. I was basically FI and ready to ER - both financially and emotionally. But I kept my FIRE plans to myself, shying away from the subject with my close friends. Why? First, there was an outside chance I would return to the workforce and I thought I would look pretty ridiculous declaring my “early retirement” and then heading back to work. Second, and more importantly, I did not want to go around bragging and shoving my financial independence in peoples’ faces. I was 47 years old when I left the workforce. I do not personally know anybody who has retired at such a young age.
So, back to my friend who is about to lose his job. Although I have not shared details of my financial position with him, he is beginning to catch on that I no longer need to work. I don’t think our friendship is in jeopardy as a result of our different financial positions. But I feel sorry for him and would like to give him emotional support and advice during this crisis even though he may be a little uncomfortable with the differences in our situations.
Any thoughts, recommendations, or similar experiences you would like to share?