Best places...

REWahoo · 11-15-2007, 07:35 AM

See if you can find the oxymoron:

The best 25 places in America for retirement jobs

Sandy · 11-15-2007, 07:37 AM

This is a trick question, right? We don't even need to look beyond the title.

**Martha** · 11-15-2007, 07:53 AM

I like the other Market Watch article: ten ways husbands can help their wives survive widowhood. The first way? Work longer.

REWahoo · 11-15-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Martha

I like the other Market Watch article: ten ways husbands can help their wives survive widowhood. The first way? Work longer.

I think I'll opt for the obvious. Don't die.

Nords · 11-15-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by REWahoo

Best places...

From your Texas Defamation League list, I would've thought that your specialty was WORST places!

I thought Robert Powell was actually making a serious attempt at ~~deadline~~ journalistic research until I noticed that Harrisburg, San Antonio, Tampa, Sacramento, and Minneapolis were on the list... it's almost as though they were making their list from certain discussion bords.

TromboneAl · 11-15-2007, 08:51 AM

Oxymoron warning!

Moemg · 11-15-2007, 10:59 AM

"One reason is that widowhood creates economic hardship, as Social Security benefits and pensions from employer-sponsored plans drop," the report says. "In addition, those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes than intact couples even before they lose their husbands. Their lower incomes reflect less education on the part of both the husband and wife and poorer health on the part of the husband than couples that remain intact."

Where do they get a stupid statement like the fact that those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes ? Are they saying rich people don't die or if you are smart you will not get Cancer ??

packrat44 · 11-15-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by REWahoo

I think I'll opt for the obvious. Don't die.

Yep. It has worked so far.

igsoy · 11-15-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Moemg

"In addition, those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes than intact couples even before they lose their husbands. Their lower incomes reflect less education on the part of both the husband and wife and poorer health on the part of the husband than couples that remain intact."

Where do they get a stupid statement like the fact that those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes ? Are they saying rich people don't die or if you are smart you will not get Cancer ??

Is it possible that lower income people are less likely to have health insurance (41 million+ uninsured) and as a result if they get cancer/heart disease/diabetes,etc., will not get comprehensive treatment for it? Those poor enough to be on medicaid (very poor) can get such treatments, but those who are in the middle and uninsured cannot get chemo or therapeutic treatment such as stents, dialysis, etc... by going to the emergency room.

**Martha** · 11-15-2007, 12:10 PM

N C H S - 1998 News Release - Health In America Tied to Income and Education

In the US lower income and poorly educated people tend to have poorer health than richer better educated people.

Moemg · 11-15-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by igsoy

Is it possible that lower income people are less likely to have health insurance (41 million+ uninsured) and as a result if they get cancer/heart disease/diabetes,etc., will not get comprehensive treatment for it? Those poor enough to be on medicaid (very poor) can get such treatments, but those who are in the middle and uninsured cannot get chemo or therapeutic treatment such as stents, dialysis, etc... by going to the emergency room.

I see your point .I guess I just happen to know a lot of wealthier widows.

Moemg · 11-15-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by REWahoo

See if you can find the oxymoron:

The best 25 places in America for retirement jobs

Hey ,If I ever (doubtful ) want a job Sarasota is on the list .

SteveR · 11-15-2007, 06:36 PM

Pensions, SS, life insurance, 401(k) benefits, home equity, etc., can all add up pretty fast to make a nice pile of $$$. I would think age is more a factor in wealthy vs poor widows. It takes most folks decades to accumulate "wealth" so someone widowed early in life would usually be less well off than one widowed later in life. I would expect the general income levels of widows to more or less follow wealth (not income) levels of others in their same age group. I think we need to understand the significant difference between income and wealth (net worth) in these groups.

BTW, Moemg, I also know a lot of wealth widows; most are 60+ years old and the younger ones are far less well off. Income would seem to be more important than net worth at a younger age since liquidation of net worth (which would be expected to be relatively low) at an early age would not produce much income for long before it was exhausted.

**Want2retire** · 11-15-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by REWahoo

The best 25 places in America for retirement jobs

The last thing I am going to want to do in retirement is take a job!!

11-15-2007, 07:35 AM	#1
REWahoo Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 10,991	Best places... See if you can find the oxymoron: The best 25 places in America for retirement jobs __________________ Spewing self-serving drivel since 2002.

11-15-2007, 07:37 AM	#2
Sandy Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 856	This is a trick question, right? We don't even need to look beyond the title. __________________ I would not have anyone adopt my mode of living...but I would have each one be very careful to find out and pursue his own way, and not his father's or his mother's or his neighbor's instead. Thoreau, Walden

11-15-2007, 07:53 AM	#3
Martha Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: minnesota Posts: 9,327	I like the other Market Watch article: ten ways husbands can help their wives survive widowhood. The first way? Work longer. __________________ . Do not rely on the information provided--my posts are not to be taken as legal advice. Needless to say you must consult with your legal representative. I am not responsible for errors. If I offended you with cya I apologize. If I did not, I tried.

11-15-2007, 08:51 AM	#6
TromboneAl Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,857	Oxymoron warning! __________________ - Al -- Always serious, never joking. No, wait. Never serious... Always... I forget.

11-15-2007, 12:10 PM	#10
Martha Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: minnesota Posts: 9,327	N C H S - 1998 News Release - Health In America Tied to Income and Education In the US lower income and poorly educated people tend to have poorer health than richer better educated people. __________________ . Do not rely on the information provided--my posts are not to be taken as legal advice. Needless to say you must consult with your legal representative. I am not responsible for errors. If I offended you with cya I apologize. If I did not, I tried.

11-15-2007, 10:59 AM	#7
Moemg Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sarasota,fl. Posts: 2,839	"One reason is that widowhood creates economic hardship, as Social Security benefits and pensions from employer-sponsored plans drop," the report says. "In addition, those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes than intact couples even before they lose their husbands. Their lower incomes reflect less education on the part of both the husband and wife and poorer health on the part of the husband than couples that remain intact." Where do they get a stupid statement like the fact that those most likely to be widowed have lower incomes ? Are they saying rich people don't die or if you are smart you will not get Cancer ??

11-15-2007, 06:36 PM	#13
SteveR Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,676	Pensions, SS, life insurance, 401(k) benefits, home equity, etc., can all add up pretty fast to make a nice pile of $$$. I would think age is more a factor in wealthy vs poor widows. It takes most folks decades to accumulate "wealth" so someone widowed early in life would usually be less well off than one widowed later in life. I would expect the general income levels of widows to more or less follow wealth (not income) levels of others in their same age group. I think we need to understand the significant difference between income and wealth (net worth) in these groups. BTW, Moemg, I also know a lot of wealth widows; most are 60+ years old and the younger ones are far less well off. Income would seem to be more important than net worth at a younger age since liquidation of net worth (which would be expected to be relatively low) at an early age would not produce much income for long before it was exhausted. __________________ Work? I don't have time to work....I'm retired.

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