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Old 05-29-2013, 05:42 PM   #61
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Even an old curmudgeon should know beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

So true - your generalization disparaging RV's makes your point beautifully.
How about if I tow a beautiful car with my RV?
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:03 PM   #62
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We, too are moving to Colorado!
We'll bring my Ford F150, my Honda Accord coupe, My wife's Altima-No new car-although I dream of a 2015 Mustang GT.

I'll get a new bicycle.
One or two camera bodies, a Nikon D600, and perhaps a Fuji X100s.
A new hiking boots!

Perhaps a short cruise once a year.

We're thinking of driving the Honda(2008) and Altima(2007) for long road trips until they reach 80000 miles each!-

Nothing very big.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:14 PM   #63
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We're thinking of driving the Honda(2008) and Altima(2007) for long road trips until they reach 80000 miles each!-
Why would you get rid of them with such low mileage? We have 110k on our 2008 Honda and our neighbor has a 2003 with 250K (80+ mile daily commute).
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:06 PM   #64
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We, too are moving to Colorado!
What makes our state so attractive to you?
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When I retired in 2008, I bought a 2007 Pontiac Solstice- the cheapest new 2 seat convertible on the market, think I paid about $17K. I don't drive it a lot but enjoy it every time I take it out. At the time I purchased the Solstice, I also had a 1956 MGA but wanted a dependable 2 seater, DW didn't enjoy the AAA sponsored trips back home in the MGA very much. Sold the MGA when we moved to WV. Turned over 6000 miles on the Solstice the other day, need to drive it a bit more to get my costs per mile down.

The jag looks fantastic and bet you'll drive it a lot more miles than I do my 2 seater!
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That MGA would be sweet.

We are trying to decide between a pure sports car or the re-done muscle car. I would like a Chevele SS convertible but think DW would prefer something more modern and sporty.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:03 PM   #67
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Why Colorado?

My only daughter lives in Omaha.
We are looking for a place with a good combination of outdoor activities, close to a big city, with active photography clubs, hiking clubs, biking, and Colorado appears to match well.
We're looking at Loveland/Fort Collins area.

OK, we"ll prob. drive the Honda and Altima to 100K miles.

I've heard about the nasty car tax in Colorado. Might as well keep the cars as long as I can.
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Old 05-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #68
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Then there is how often you use it. Car-everyday. It is far from "done" when you buy it, the pleasure is renewed every time you smell the leather seats or feel the cornering ability or the push against your back if you put your foot into it.
For me, a new car is cool the first month. Then it does what every car I've had did in the past. Get me from A to B. But I won't argue that for some people, there's more to it than that.

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RV -likely 50 days a year would be heavy usage.
My FIL was talking about his neighbors who live in their RV for the winter months in Florida. That's a lifestyle change. It might be horrible for some, but they apparently love it.

I think I'm narrowing in on it, though. It's not the buying of the item, it's how the item is used that may serve to increase happiness. I'm reading this book by Jonathan Haidt where he says:

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Set for yourself any goal you want. Most of the pleasure will be had along the way, with every step that takes you closer. The final moment of success is often no more thrilling than the relief of taking off a heavy backpack after the end of a long hike. If you went on the hike only to feel that pleasure, you are a fool.
There's a lot of context around that, but for me, buying something, unless it really changes something in my life, isn't going to move the happiness needle very far.
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Set for yourself any goal you want. Most of the pleasure will be had along the way, with every step that takes you closer. The final moment of success is often no more thrilling than the relief of taking off a heavy backpack after the end of a long hike. If you went on the hike only to feel that pleasure, you are a fool.
Maybe so, but how long would you go on making love if someone stopped you every time you approached nirvana? In ski-ing is the pleasure in the run, or in driving 4 hours through a blizzard on mountain roads and waiting in lift lines?

I have a suspicion that some of these guys who write books about pleasure haven't had much of it.

Last winter I spent $2k to change the heat in my apartment. IT was warm before, but just not pleasant. I am 100% sure that as long as i live here, I will walk out on a winter morning and turn up the thermostat and sit down to read my paper being grateful. Much more that if I had spent the $2k to spend Christmas in Munich, for example, then come home and had my head hot and my feet cold as with my previous heating system.

It could be that this is just one more example of how dramatically different people can be from one another.

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It could be that this is just one more example of how dramatically different people can be from one another.
Ain't that the truth! I'd like the drive through the blizzard (in my reliable yet otherwise unremarkable car with the car's heat blasting my head) more than freezing my *ss off on the downhills

I'm not sure those authors have everything right, but one thing that keeps showing up over and over again throughout history, currently in clever experiments, and in fMRI tests...humans are notoriously bad at predicting what will bring them more happiness.
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DW and I are planning several "splurges", but it is built into our retirement budget. Taking them into account is why we are targeting for $100-110K annual spending vs. the $85-$90K our "retirement budget" spending tests are showing.
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I think he just doesn't know "How" to spend it to be honest. He and his wife (who unfortunately passed away last year) scrimped and saved their entire life... And I have to admit even for my friend has started to ease up--since his wife passed he outfitted a 'man cave' with a slot machine, tv, etc.
Don't worry. He will probably eventually meet some 70+ hottie on eHarmony and plummet into a second youth, spending with abandon on fine wine and travel.
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