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Old 03-23-2012, 02:45 PM   #21
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Very likely depends on who was referring to them. I know that the Irish, Italians, Jews, and various central European groups were not universally respected, to put it very mildly. What was one of the biggest complaints about the Roman catholics? They had too large families.

It should also be remembered that this was pre-welfare, and still attitudes toward the newcomers remained quite negative for a long time.

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Well....... Elon Musk the founder of Paypal, Tesla Motors and SpaceX is South African and has five kids. I think we are better off because of immigrants like Mr. Musk.
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Many groups of immigrants found a home in the US and added to rapid population growth in previous generations. I wonder if they too were referred to as [mod edit]?
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Seems factually correct:

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/12s0083.pdf

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Table 83. Total Fertility Rate by Race and Hispanic Origin: 1980 to 2008
[Based on race of mother. Excludes births to nonresidents of United States. The total fertility rate is the number of births that 1,000
women would have in their lifetime if, at each year of age, they experienced the birth rates occurring in the specified year. A total
fertility rate of 2,110 represents “replacement level” fertility for the total population under current mortality conditions (assuming no
net immigration). See Appendix III]
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Race and Hispanic origin  2008
Total 1                            2,085
White.                             2,067
Black.                             2,132
American Indian, Eskimo, Aleut.    1,844
Asian or Pacific Islander .        2,055
Hispanic 2. .                      2,912
2,912 versus a range of 1,844-2,132 across all other groups is quite an outlier.

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Strictly from a self interest point of view (My plan is to start collecting SS at 62 at the end of this year) it seems that a growing population of hopefully working and tax paying and SS contributing young adults seems like a positive no? I mean I read about the dire forecasts of Japan and some European nations facing a dire demographic forecast of shrinking populations and dimishing working populations. That's not what we want here in the US do we? Based on ERD's post above it seems that the hispanic population is the only group at over replacement rate...
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Strictly from a self interest point of view (My plan is to start collecting SS at 62 at the end of this year) it seems that a growing population of hopefully working and tax paying and SS contributing young adults seems like a positive no? I mean I read about the dire forecasts of Japan and some European nations facing a dire demographic forecast of shrinking populations and dimishing working populations. That's not what we want here in the US do we? Based on ERD's post above it seems that the hispanic population is the only group at over replacement rate...
Agreed. Don't forget China among those facing a demographic headwind thanks to their 80's one-child policy Why Demographics Show China Poses No Long-Term Threat To The US | Emerging Markets | Minyanville.com.
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Mid pack- what is the y axis on that figure,
. I read the article and cannot quite figure where or what is being shown here beyond the USA being in a different condition than the others going forward.
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