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Old 01-03-2007, 12:14 AM   #21
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You might want to consider Southern Illinois. Anything south of Mt. Vernon is further south than much of Kentucky so Winters are mild. There are no cities in Southern Illinois so water and air quality is very good. Land is also cheap. Plenty of small towns with grocery stores. Wal-Marts are scattered around the region -- easily within an hour of anywhere. The glacier that flattened much of the mid-West stopped before it got there, so the landscape is hilly with lots of lakes and streams. Shawnee National Forest is filled with interesting sites. There are some really interesting cities along the Mississippi and Ohio rivers.
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Re: Cheap land. Year-round motorcycling.
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You might want to consider Southern Illinois.
And we have very interesting convicted felons politicians!
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Yeah. I grew up in Illinois but haven't lived there in over 30 years. They seemed to have more than their share of political corruption even then. But as I've moved around the country (California, North Carolina, Iowa, Arizona) I've figured out that every State seems to have plenty of political corruption. We've had some real doozies in Arizona.
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I grew up in Illinois but haven't lived there in over 30 years. They seemed to have more than their share of political corruption even then. But as I've moved around the country (California, North Carolina, Iowa, Arizona) I've figured out that every State seems to have plenty of political corruption. We've had some real doozies in Arizona.
I grew up in Pittsburgh and learned from my folks that PA was one of the most politically corrupt states on the face of the planet... except for Cleveland.

Then I hung around Washington, DC for a few years and had my eyes opened. The high-quality professional standards and sustained effort of political corruption left me breathless. Maybe it's the higher per capita population of politicians or maybe it's their innate competitiveness, but it's not something easily duplicated in Dubuque... or even Cleveland.

Since then I've lived all over the world and, with the possible exception of Bangkok, nothing can touch the big-league concentrated corruption seen in Washington. However I'm consistently impressed with the rest of our nation's entrepreneurial spirit, small-business initiative, minority opportunities, and strong growth. Only in America!
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I grew up in Pittsburgh and learned from my folks that PA was one of the most politically corrupt states on the face of the planet... except for Cleveland.

Then I hung around Washington, DC for a few years and had my eyes opened. The high-quality professional standards and sustained effort of political corruption left me breathless. Maybe it's the higher per capita population of politicians or maybe it's their innate competitiveness, but it's not something easily duplicated in Dubuque... or even Cleveland.

Since then I've lived all over the world and, with the possible exception of Bangkok, nothing can touch the big-league concentrated corruption seen in Washington. However I'm consistently impressed with the rest of our nation's entrepreneurial spirit, small-business initiative, minority opportunities, and strong growth. Only in America!
The ametuers play in the state an local arenas....

If you are a REAL PRO and want to have some competition... you have to go where the pros go... that is Washington...

BTW... the rules are different in other countries.... seems that in Russia you just kill off the people that get in your way... I am sure it is the same for other countries..
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BTW... the rules are different in other countries.... seems that in Russia you just kill off the people that get in your way... I am sure it is the same for other countries..
"Survivor bias"...
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