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Old 01-14-2013, 11:44 AM   #21
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:01 PM   #22
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Is coasting like being "KMA"? Since I announced that I wasn't going to come to work as of April 1 this year and that I didn't expect them to pay me for not coming to work, it seems like my business picked up. Go figure.

The term "retire" seems draconian almost. I prefer to tell people I'm just going to not go to work and I'm not going to get paid for not going to work. If something comes up that I want to do, I will do it and will get paid, but it won't involve going to an office every day.

Anyway, being KMA is a good thing. Don't have to do anything you don't want to do.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:41 PM   #23
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Whats KMA? The best I come up with is "Kiss My Ass." Oddly appropriate, but I sense it isn't your meaning...
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:12 PM   #24
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Where I worked last there was one person who was pretty open about her coasting. She said she was "retired but still showing up for the money". She's probably still there.......
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Interesting thread...
It often seems like we are living in a world where everything about management has hardened... more ruthless than it was many years ago, when things were simpler.
Maybe not so much...
Back in 1983, when working for a very large company... I found that there are two levels of management... and the the upper level is more complicated than the lower level...
It was a time of decision... to keep on going, or to fold the company. As a lower level manager, I was invited in to the other level, and became a sort of undercover agent, making the plans for implementing the close down of operations over a three year period.

It was an opportunity to look into the way big decisions are made, and to see that decisions on "people" were mechanical, rather than personal.

One of our long time employees put it very well, when he said...
"If I put my hand in a bucket of water, and then take it out... that's how much I'll be missed"

So hard nosed decisions are not new... and calculating the value of one's work is not a first person decision.
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Interesting topic, indeed.

Heard in our weekly meeting from boss today that more benefits are in discussion for reduction.

Consensus is, "more layoffs to come", so it matters little if people go for greener grass. Why not coast downhill, and see when resistance brings my ride to a final halt?
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I have to believe there are thousands of mid-50's boomers that are just waiting for final pricing and rules on Obamacare before deciding to pull the trigger and go. I have believed for some time now that the best way to stimulate the economy would be to temporairily lower the age for social security to flush out enough of the "coasters" to put more income in the hands of younger folks more inclined to spend it rather than save it.

I am a coaster...come and get me!
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:24 PM   #28
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I don't think I ever coasted. I retired as soon as I could, but meanwhile put all my effort into my job when I was being paid to do it. Maybe I was a chump, but I have to be true to who I think I am.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:35 PM   #29
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I'm not consciously coasting as I count down towards my final working day, but I am already working with my employer to pass over some management/admin functions to others. This will have the effect of shortening my working hours a bit.
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I thought I was coasting

I am a teacher and have dealt with discipline for over 30 years. It can destroy your soul and make you bitter so if you can keep a sense of humor and actually like that part of the job, you have it made. Sort of like I am teaching them right from wrong type of attitude.
We have a new principal and he is keeping a low profile. However, I feel I have been supported by him over the last year. Today, I found out how nice it is when you and your admin are on the same wavelength. I had been dealing with a very rude grade 11 boy and his mother was being totally uncooperative. I had kept my principal in the loop and today he showed up just as the two boys came for their time out. He did not say a word....just sat down in my classroom and gave me some quiet support. "The big guns were drawn" Somehow they understand power and will probably not try that again. On the other hand I went out of my way to discipline two boys who were trying to wander the hallways without permission. I was trying to uphold school policy and he made an obvious show of supporting me. Believe me, this is rare. I was going to retire in a few years, but if this guy stays around for a few more years I just might stay also.
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Believe me, this is rare. I was going to retire in a few years, but if this guy stays around for a few more years I just might stay also.
It's great that you have a good boss like that. I believe that the top reason people quit is bad bosses. An unsupportive boss was a major reason I ER'd when I did.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:20 AM   #32
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I'm in a coasting mode, continuing the j*b as long as it feels right. The funny thing is that my coasting approach seems to make me more appreciated. If something is dumb I don't do it. If something has value I explore and share. I'm not afraid to call BS and be the voice of reason up the org chart because I don't worry about perceptions and future impact.

Yep, sounds like Office Space. The Bob's love me....
Gosh, if that was coasting, I spent almost my entire career coasting.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:27 PM   #33
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The last years I went though the motions on the review processes. They had their reviews and infinitesimal pay raises. My 401k balance went up and down daily more than their raises for the year. And the theory was I was suppose to work harder for a .1% improvement in pay.

Far easier to give my self a raise by not working as much or as long.
I do the same, just sign the form and get out. This year will probably be the best (worst?), for coasting. I can get most of my work done in half a day if it wasn't for unneeded interruptions.

Like others, no one here is able to do what I do. They'll likely outsource my main function or hire someone with experience at a higher pay and maybe hire an additional person to do my other functions. Either option will cost them more than what they pay me.

I think they realize that, so I can get away with a few things like telling my boss he's an idiot (but not in those words). They have no idea when I'm retiring, so it will be a momentary shock. Besides, they might provide for a week of cross-training, so any advance warning is wasted while I'll likely get hounded. They'll get minimal notice from me.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:44 PM   #34
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It's great that you have a good boss like that. I believe that the top reason people quit is bad bosses. An unsupportive boss was a major reason I ER'd when I did.
I think you are right. I actually really liked my boss and think I ended up staying longer than I had planned to as a result.
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I haven't read any of my performance appraisals in six years. Raises are good, all the "heavy-lifting" in fine tuning the department is done. Now I spend most of my time mentoring younger supervisors and delegating nearly all but the top decisions.

Maybe I am retired and just showing up for the money? I don't mind getting up and going to work, but it's annoying to have to hang out for 7 or 8 hours before driving back home. I think I will be out of here by year end.
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In a sense, most anyone still w@rking after FI is coasting. But in my experience folks in that mode tend to remain very productive for their organizations. I'll bet most bosses prob appreciate the honesty they get from "coasters" knowing their opinions/recommendations are not influenced by the drive to "win" at office politics or step on colleagues to reach for the next promotion.
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.....I don't mind getting up and going to work, but it's annoying to have to hang out for 7 or 8 hours before driving back home.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:40 PM   #39
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On the coasting subject...I've been there, done that.

Honestly...It really gets boring and time stands still. I have discovered that you are better off being productive with your projects and getting things done. Time flies by, and (believe me), you will be having more fun. Just sitting around with no purpose is a slow death...
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QUOTE: "I never realized there were actual names for this"

The megacorp I work at the term RIP is used (retired in place). Not sure how common that is.

For me I'm not wired that way and prefer to be busy and challenged vs. sitting back and waiting for assignments to come my way.

Having said that, not many folks who coast are penalized in the current environment. Although if it's really blatant and basically coasting and being a PIA, then when layoffs come around those folks are no more.

I realize there are different strokes to work ethic but at the end of the day I don't want to be known as that guy who no one wants to approach and every boss just hopes he/she just goes away. Seems like an odd way to approach w_rk.

Like my dad used to say "I get to go to work". Cheers. Let the barbs fly my way!!
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