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Old 10-26-2005, 01:31 AM   #161
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I'm sorry to hear that, but isn't the dream always to see your kids go off to college?* You know your child is off for a bright future, at that point you can be at peace knowing you've done everything you can.
A bright future? Is that how it's supposed to work?!?

I thought college was a convenient excuse for getting them to move several time zones away, allowing you the leisure to re-key the locks and change the alarm codes... otherwise they'd get a job at Wal-Mart or McDs and live out of their your "spare" bedroom forever!
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Re: ER - the Rational Response to a world going crazy
Old 10-26-2005, 07:37 AM   #162
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The latest trend seems to be "Boomerangs" who move back in after college and never really leave. Reasons seem to be the high cost of real estate, and boomer parents' closer relationships with the kids. One aggravator seems to be parents who make life too comfortable at home that no rational economic unit (kid) could pass up the deal.

Another may be kids who worked so hard to get into a good college thinking that would ensure lifetime success and happiness, and get offput by the difficulties of starting out on their own in an entry level job in the real world. Easier to stay at home and hang with the old friends.

My oldest has just entered high school, so we're some years away. I can see the housing problem brewing, already though. I'm of the "up and out" school, and my Chinese wife is of the "why should they ever leave -- even when they're married they can all move in with us with the grandkids in one big happy compound/commune" school. Not sure where we'll end up on this one!
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:20 AM   #163
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... and my Chinese wife is of the "why should they ever leave -- even when they're married they can all move in with us with the grandkids in one big happy compound/commune" school.* Not sure where we'll end up on this one!
As long as she's of that school, will she be doing all the tribal cooking & cleaning & childcare? This controversy may work itself out without any need for your input!

Fox's show "The War At Home", which sadly appears to be already off the air, featured a scoreboard of the guy's three kids and the days remaining until they left home for college. At the end of the day when he smacked the wall the board was mounted on, each counter decremented by one.

Anyone know a countdown utility that we could download, add to our Windows desktop, and customize for our kid's countdown?
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Anyone know a countdown utility that we could download, add to our Windows desktop, and customize for our kid's countdown?
I think your kid is almost old enough to keep track of that for you. Soon she'll be eager to. You can just ask her how many days till she gets set free*.

* by free, I mean a few years of college then a few decades of work


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I use this one....it's free so don't expect too much. I run it for my ER but you can configure it to read anything you want and it even has reminders of you want them.

http://www.timeleft.info/
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Eagle43:

blah, blah, blah....

Since I've actually lived in both countries, I won't comment since I know the U.S. has it's fair share of problems!
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I think your kid is almost old enough to keep track of that for you.* Soon she'll be eager to.* You can just ask her how many days till she gets set free*.
Good point-- I like that idea. If she can do it with Harry Potter's latest movie then she can do it with her "emancipation"...
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As long as she's of that school, will she be doing all the tribal cooking & cleaning & childcare? This controversy may work itself out without any need for your input!
For better or worse, she loves to cook, so that isn't an issue. In fact, she'll do four separate meals for four people if given just a little nudge. Amazing. (She's an ERd immigration attorney -- I guess cooking is what she always wanted to do -- anything beats battling with the INS!)
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Yet another great thread! To add my 2 cents:

For me, the expectations in the household helped to define what I was able to do - in addition to my driven nature. What's interesting is the difference in results between my brother and I, which I now hesitatingly attribute to a different genetic aspect - he tended to take more after my mother's side of the family, which in general isn't the most prosperous and tends to an attitude of entitlement. I took after more of my father's side, which believed in education, education, education and hard work. One could also link this to the mother-son and father-daughter relationships as well.

In my case, I expect to be RE'ing soon - before 65 for sure. In my brother's case, he died at 23 due to some poor lifestyle choices and bad luck at that time. I'd say on a pure intelligence measure, he was higher than I, but perhaps in emotional and relationship intelligence, he fared on a lower scale.

My motivation for striving to RE - to have the time to do what I wish - to not have someone else's agenda be my priority for a large part of my day. To experience that which I wish to experience and not what someone else believes I should experience.

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