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Old 01-26-2018, 12:36 PM   #201
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There isn't anything complicated about wealth.

It's simply an indisputable law that anyone with less than (insert your name here) was just irresponsible, and anyone with more than (insert your name here) was just lucky. (insert your name here) alone represents the standard for hard work, diligence, virtue and wisdom.

What could be fairer or more self-evident than that?
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:45 PM   #202
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We've had people we don't know all that well get upset when they found out we retired early. I guess that means they are no where close themselves to retiring early.

Our solution has been to hang out with people from the senior centers even though they are all older than us. They are all retired themselves so they kind of wonder about our ages but nobody is resentful about it. I think they kind of enjoy having some younger members.
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:46 PM   #203
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There isn't anything complicated about wealth.

It's simply an indisputable law that anyone with less than (insert your name here) was just irresponsible, and anyone with more than (insert your name here) was just lucky. (insert your name here) alone represents the standard for hard work, diligence, virtue and wisdom.

What could be fairer or more self-evident than that?
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:51 PM   #204
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I snicker to myself when I hear the 'poor me' or the 'your so lucky' noise from folks who simply made bad financial decisions or ate themselves into poor health, diabetes etc.

Just more instances of people trying to blame others for their self inflicted problems.
Some people will hate you because they see you enjoying the success they don't have from the work they haven't done.

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But when it comes to siblings it just seems like if you have more money than them they want you to either suffer from guilt or displeasure or they want you to drown in the same suffering mode they are in.
My wife's family is exactly like that. They all had a great relationship with my wife as long as they believed they had more than her (us). As soon as it was obvious that wasn't the case, the relationships deteriorated quickly. Just like kids, everyone is happy with their single scoop ice cream cone until they see their brother / sister with two scoops. Fortunately, I've reached a point in my life where I know there will always be someone else with more scoops of ice cream than me, so I'm grateful at this stage of my life to to have "enough".

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I have a different personality. Making people feel uncomfortable doesnt, in the long run, make me feel better.
Well said, sir!
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:02 PM   #205
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I have a couple of family members who liked to patronize me when I didn't have anything, and resented me after I acquired a bigger, nicer house. Remarks were passed about people who are "house-poor," have their "priorities" messed up, etc. They had no way of knowing we were not house-poor, since we were otherwise frugal, drove old cars and so on. We think they had just gotten comfortable with looking down on me, and resented not being able to do that any more.

Most of my family members are OK. They have enough for themselves, and don't care how much/little others have.


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Some people will hate you because they see you enjoying the success they don't have from the work they haven't done.



My wife's family is exactly like that. They all had a great relationship with my wife as long as they believed they had more than her (us). As soon as it was obvious that wasn't the case, the relationships deteriorated quickly. Just like kids, everyone is happy with their single scoop ice cream cone until they see their brother / sister with two scoops. Fortunately, I've reached a point in my life where I know there will always be someone else with more scoops of ice cream than me, so I'm grateful at this stage of my life to to have "enough".



Well said, sir!
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:03 PM   #206
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And in the meantime, the S&P500 continues it's sharp upwards streak today.............
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:08 PM   #207
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+1 the birth lottery pretty much determines your starting point in life. Being born in the United States is definitely a big plus.
I agree with this, anyone who was born in the United States was born on third base, whether they realize it or not.
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:12 PM   #208
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I agree with this, anyone who was born in the United States was born on third base, whether they realize it or not.
True that. Or born in the northern hemisphere, for that matter.
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True that. Or born in the northern hemisphere, for that matter.
Um, I wouldn't go that far. I don't think someone born in Afghanistan or North Korea was born on third base.
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Um, I wouldn't go that far. What about someone born in Afghanistan?
Agreed, there are exceptions. As there are in the U.S. But in general and on average, residents of the northern hemisphere are immensely more affluent than those of the southern hemisphere.
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True that. Or born in the northern hemisphere, for that matter.
Probably a bunch of Australians getting mad right now...
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Agreed, there are exceptions. As there are in the U.S. But in general and on average, residents of the northern hemisphere are immensely more affluent than those of the southern hemisphere.
Really? According to Wikipedia, 90% of the world's population lives in the northern hemisphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere

I would hardly say that 90% of the world's population was born on third base.
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Really? According to Wikipedia, 90% of the world's population lives in the northern hemisphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere

I would hardly say that 90% of the world's population was born on third base.
Yes, really. "...in general and on average, residents of the northern hemisphere are immensely more affluent than those of the southern hemisphere."

Do you disagree?
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I disagree that 90% of the world's population was born on third base.
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Really? According to Wikipedia, 90% of the world's population lives in the northern hemisphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere

I would hardly say that 90% of the world's population was born on third base.
It took me well into late adolescence before reaching third base.

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Yes, really. "...in general and on average, residents of the northern hemisphere are immensely more affluent than those of the southern hemisphere."

Do you disagree?
Probably would be easier to refer to first world countries, in order to be a bit more specific.
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I disagree that 90% of the world's population was born on third base.
It's true in exactly the same metaphorical, comparative sense that it's true of the United States, as in your original statement. Many Americans were not born on third base, but on average far more were than in poorer countries.
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Probably would be easier to refer to first world countries, in order to be a bit more specific.
As opposed to 'excrement indentations'.
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I have a couple of family members who liked to patronize me when I didn't have anything, and resented me after I acquired a bigger, nicer house.
Nice to hear my wife isn't the only one having to deal with that. Its a real shame and I know it hurts my wife a lot.
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