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Old 02-04-2015, 06:55 PM   #21
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A guy down the lake from us has a 127' Christensen mega yacht, and it's a 350 ton hull. It takes a licensed boat captain and 2 other guys to run it. With 12 cylinder diesels, its range is 4500 miles which means he can make the Mediterranean with it. As far as I can tell, such a boat is around $25 million.

The boat comes up from Ft. Lauderdale from time to time. I would assume he's not running Florida licenses, as our state has no ad valorem taxes on boats.
This one? Yours for under $4MM. Displacement is 193 tons.

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$4M for a boat that the owner claimed to have recently put in more than $2M to update? Good grief! A true money pit.

In 2011, she had a complete exterior paint job at Rolly Marine, new teak decks, and Navy blue window line. In 2009/10 she underwent an extensive $2M complete mechanical refit...
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:05 AM   #23
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Too bad, I cannot drive it on our freeways.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:21 AM   #24
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I've been sailing since I was 12 and have learned a few things about boats along the way.

You sail a sailboat and you drive a stinkpot (sailor's name for motor vessels).

A yacht, is any privately owned boat, size is irrelevant. You do however come across as being pretty pretentious when you call your 12 foot sailing dinghy your yacht and go around wearing a captain's hat. Actually, anyone who goes around referring to their boat as a yacht or wearing a captain's hat comes across as pretentious unless they are a Greek skippering a fishing boat. But you still have to look the part.

This: http://companymanvintage.com/wp-cont...013/04/hat.jpg
Not this: http://www.greatergoodsonline.com/sh...eanprofile.JPG

One definition of a boat is a 'hull in the water, you throw money into.'

Those pretty young things in bikinis you see lounging on the deck are called, 'deck bunnies'. Nuff said.

To qualify as a potential DW of a sailor, requires being a Cordon Blue cook who can do wonders with a can of Spam; able to stand a watch single-handed in lumpy seas; capable of rounding up to the wind and coasting the boat to within a boat hook's length of a mooring buoy with ease. Anything less than that may qualify as a first mate depending on other qualities.

Stinkpot drivers are people who cannot learn to sail. Don't buy one even if it is a steal at only 1.6Mil. It will ruin your street cred.
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Again there is no actual rule, but 40 feet has long been a widely held threshold between a boat and a yacht.

But the better definition is probably "If you can't afford it, then it's a yacht. Otherwise, it's a boat."

Or 'If you do the work on it yourself it's a boat, if you hire someone to do all the work it's a yacht.'

Other well worn old pearls:
  • A boat is a hole in the water you through money into.
  • Owning a boat is like standing in a cold shower tearing up $100 bills.
  • The two best days in a boat owners life, the day he/she buys the boat, and the day he/she sells the boat.
  • Better than owning a boat, is having a friend who owns a boat.
  • BOAT is actually an acronym for 'Break Out Another Thousand.'
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:39 PM   #26
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Well we can agree to disagree Midpack. If you're going to say there is an arbitrary length a boat must be to be a yacht rather than a boat, you'll have to say that a 39 foot boat isn't a yacht. Does that sound reasonable to you? What is clearly defined is that it is a boat used for leisure and privately owned rather than a commercial vessel of any kind.

Or we could just as easily go to windward and say that 'jot' the original Dutch word used to describe a boat used to chase pirates in the Low Countries and origin of the word yacht, means it can only be applied to a boat with sails. I"d call that a better cut off than any arbitrary length. But then I'm adverse to anything to do with stinkpots.

One thing is for sure, referring to your boat as a yacht is a faux pas whatever it's length.

What's that in your avatar picture Midpack? A Sunfish? I learned to sail on a Butterfly, then moved on to Lasers for racing. Eventually I moved on to keel boats and club racing them on Lake Ontario (from Toronto). That led to cruising vacations in places like the Virgin Islands and Grenadines. I've sailed as well in the North Sea, Norwegian Fjords, French Polynesians and Mediterranean (I started my retirement crewing in the Med). And yes, I learned the best boat is someone else's boat.
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My little 19 foot runabout power boat is perfect for the j*b. I keep it on a small lake very close to my home. It is the perfect size for me to skipper, on a perfect size lake where I can get back to the docks quickly ahead of weather.
I am resolved to get out on it more this year. Mr B is not a boating type, but my gardening buddy is. I do not like to go out alone, not ever a good idea.
So now I have a partner in crime on the water. He can fish, I'll just sit and tan or read a book. WIN WIN
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"A boat is a tool, designed to allow one to drink beer while on the water..."

Umm, then in that case you must believe a car is a tool, designed to allow one to drink beer while on land.....

As a joke, it's fine, but as a serious statement it's flawed. The laws and consequences are the same. OK, I'll lighten up as long as you tell me you meant it as a joke. Some people think that way and are serious.
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As a joke, it's fine, but as a serious statement it's flawed. The laws and consequences are the same. OK, I'll lighten up as long as you tell me you meant it as a joke. Some people think that way and are serious.
From the Minnesota Boating Guide:

The BWI law does not prohibit drinking alcoholic beverages aboard boats nor having an open bottle. The law applies to operators of motorboats that are not anchored, beached, moored, docked or being rowed or propelled by nonmechanical means at the time of the offense.

As far as I know, still illegal to have an open container in a car...
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Well we can agree to disagree Midpack. If you're going to say there is an arbitrary length a boat must be to be a yacht rather than a boat, you'll have to say that a 39 foot boat isn't a yacht. Does that sound reasonable to you?
I didn't originate the rule of thumb some people use, but it clearly began as a joke - lighten up. You can call a Opti a yacht if it makes you happy...

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And it's not a boat, (there's no actual rule but) anything over 40 feet qualifies as a 'yacht' - ahem, tsk-tsk, yada-yada.
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Again there is no actual rule, but 40 feet has long been a widely held threshold between a boat and a yacht.
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I consider it a mild debate Midpack and am 'lightened up'. So come on, let's discuss it without either of us needing to lighten up. A debate is not an argument unless someone takes it personally.

Here's what I seriously think about the term 'yacht'. Anyone who used the term to refer to their own boat is pretentious. What do you think? To me, it's not about the length of the boat that makes it a yacht or not, it's about the use of the word to refer to ANY boat. If I really wanted to think of a criteria that would make distinguising between a boat and a yacht make any sense I'd probably say that to be a yacht it must have paid crew. That at least is a criteria that makes some sense.

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"A boat is a tool, designed to allow one to drink beer while on the water..."

Umm, then in that case you must believe a car is a tool, designed to allow one to drink beer while on land.....

As a joke, it's fine, but as a serious statement it's flawed. The laws and consequences are the same. OK, I'll lighten up as long as you tell me you meant it as a joke. Some people think that way and are serious.

I owned an 18ft bowrider back in the day, so friends and I would usually ski or boogie board until we got tired, then go find a cove, and float around in the water with an adult beverage or two, so technically no one was drinking and driving... ;-)

The lakes around DFW are noted for the number of intoxicated boaters, and I adjusted accordingly...

I can say from experience that a ride across the lake with an open beer will turn an otherwise good beer into a can o' foam in short order.

Not likely to ever buy another boat, but if I do, it will be a pontoon, designed for a leisurely day on the water. No daredeviling required at my age...

And I can imagine the resulting horse-laughing if I had called my boat a "yacht"...


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just bought my 1st boat last year.. 20 ft pontoon and we love it..getting an 80lb trolling motor installed on it next week as we wait for the spring spawn when the crappie and white bass go crazy..
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I'm more the airplane type so I'd like one of these, also for just under $2 mil.
And if you don't prang it somehow, it will only go up in value, unlike most boats. Of course I could be wrong, so YMMV.
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And if you don't prang it somehow, it will only go up in value, unlike most boats. Of course I could be wrong, so YMMV.
Generally yes but a lot depends on how well it is maintained and how close it is to needing major maintenance - an engine overhaul, needed about every 600-700 hours, costs ~$250k. The engine holds 80 quarts of oil at $5/quart.

A P-51 is definitely in the category of "If you have to ask 'how much' you can't afford it".
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