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Old 12-19-2006, 03:35 PM   #21
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Don't know chit about glass blowing, other than some mad scientist experimentation in chem lab, but is it necessary to anneal a finished piece? Thus, a kiln might be a necessity for glass work in general...
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:00 PM   #22
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Don't know chit about glass blowing, other than some mad scientist experimentation in chem lab, but is it necessary to anneal a finished piece? Thus, a kiln might be a necessity for glass work in general...
Everytime you heat glass above its anneal temperature, which is usually between 900 and 1000 f you have to anneal when you cool it back down. The annealing is done by holding at a specific temperature until the entire piece is at that temperature, then cooling very slowly. The anneal point is that temperature where the glass starts returning to a solid. Poorly annealed glass can have stresses which might cause it to break.

Annealing times depend on thickness, a 1/4 inch thick piece only takes about 30 minutes and then you can cool down slowly. An 8 inch piece might take as long as 60 days to get back to room temperature.

Glass blowers use an annealer to store finished pieces till they are down and usually let it cool overnight.

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I didn't realize that you made it. Impressive.
Thank you Al.

I've been playing around with glass for about 6 years now. It's amazing what you can do in the garage.
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The DC area has one of the largest concentrations of glass fusers around the country
OK, OK, I'll say it here, too.

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My old mainstays have been even more fun since ER.
Amateur radio has been a hobby of mine since childhood. I have met some of my best friends over the years on the radio.
Motorcycling is another. Again, the friendships have been rewarding.
I play on softball teams when I get the chance. Team sports also builds comraderie.
I also do volunteer work for charities that help with addiction issues, child welfare issues, and emergency management services.
I am careful with my time because I don't want to get overloaded. People tend to think you are desparate for something to do after retirement. I still want time to relax and "piddle" when I want!

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Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce? Late 60s?

Beautiful car in any case!
Thanks Ha. You're close on the i/d; right era, right country. It's a 1969 Lancia Fulvia coupe.

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Old 12-19-2006, 09:09 PM   #28
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That looks like a Lancia, is it a 1971 ?

I lived in Geneva Switzerland for 2 years growing up, and became a huge Eropean car buff then. The Geneva auto show is the best !

Edit : Whoops - just saw the post above mine, I didn't see it before I made my post though, honest !
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Hey, I'd say that's a 1969 Lancia Fulvia coupe. Yes?

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Man, the perfect topic, if only I'd kept my website up a little longer I started a website for retirement hobbies not long after I started reading this site, but I never ended up posting enough content, so I ended up discontinuing it.

Here's a quick list of somewhat cheap hobbies people may want to try in retirement:

1. Scuba Diving (ongoing costs are fairly low if you're diving locally, mostly just air refills and entry fees. Even cold places have quarries they can dive in. If you have a divemaster or instructor certification, a school will pay your air & entry fees if you'll help them out with students, which some people enjoy)

2. Making websites / programs (once you have a computer, your cost is just your time for the most part, plus maybe a couple bucks a month for a domain)

3. Investment research (if you're already investing in stocks, you can burn a lot of time researching them)

4. Sailing (a couple thousand will buy you a very nice boat, and if you're near any decently sized body of water, this could be a practically free hobby)

5. Martial arts (Last I checked, it cost about $1500 at the local Hapkido academy for 1 year of classes, 3 days per week. Another $500 or so allowed you to go every day for a few hours. It can be quite a workout, and you can meet some neat people. There were 75 year old people in the class, along with 12 year olds.)

6. Painting / sculpture (Most artists are known to be poor, so it must not cost too much. Time is the largest cost in general)

7. Bonsai (With a book or two, the only cost is 30 bucks for a plant from home depot. You can get a few, and it can be quite an involved hobby. You'll be constantly looking for new pots to put cuttings into, and always looking at the root structure of dysfunctional plants at home garden centers)

8. Writing (A writing tool such as an AlphaSmart can be found for $200 or so, or you can just use notepaper, or a home computer.)

9. Learning a new language (books, audio tapes, classes. Libraries can provide a lot of good materials)

10. Learning an instrument (purchase a guitar for instance for a couple hundred dollars, and there are DVDs to be bought that will teach the basics. There are tabs found online for almost any song, and books are widely available at libraries with songs in them as well)

Anyway, listing hobbies is a hobby of mine, and I'm not retired yet *sigh*
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I went to a retirement luncheon last week. One of the retirees is taking violin lessons (he already plays and teaches guitar).
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My hobby has been playing jazz piano and trombone, and DW's hobby is knitting. For years we've filled out schedule C's for these, with a guaranteed loss of $500 to $1,000 each year.

I don't know what went wrong, but this year we'll each make a small profit.*

*[Edit]Oops, hadn't yet figured in the driving costs. No profit for me this year, though DW still made a little.
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How about learning to fly?
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How about learning to fly?
I always thought I would like to learn to fly so I went up to the Fort Meade Flying club shortly after I retired and took an introductory lesson. It was fun but I realized that it didn't make sense for me. The DC area is highly restricted now so there are limited areas to fly in. But what really set me back was the realization that I would probably have no one to fly with. Unless you travel a lot to locations you can take a small plane to who will go up with you? Everyone will want to go once or twice but after that they will beg off -- it just isn't that thrilling for a passenger. So you get to fly around by yourself

For those who have always thought they would like it, I recommend an introductory lesson - it doesn't cost much and it is fun. As to the lessons, you need to figure out if you have a practical use for flying or if you really love it enough to go up by yourself frequently with no destination in mind.
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I always thought I would like to learn to fly so I went up to the Fort Meade Flying club shortly after I retired and took an introductory lesson.... Unless you travel a lot to locations you can take a small plane to who will go up with you? Everyone will want to go once or twice but after that they will beg off -- it just isn't that thrilling for a passenger. So you get to fly around by yourself
I got my pilot license when I was about 40. I absolutely loved it. The usual "reason" to fly was to spend $80 on a hamburger at some small airport a couple hundred miles away, then come home. Oh - that $80 included rental fees and fuel.

Work and weather combined to prevent me from flying enough to stay safe, so I gave it up reluctantly. When I FIRE, I suspect the expense will give me pause as to picking it back up again.
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Similar experience here. PPL about 40, went on to get my instrument rating & complex sign-off. I was partner in a 172 with 3 others of similar experience, so finding someone to fly with was no problem (Rich- only $80 for the burger trip). Plus there were always airport bums laying about eager to go up. I think I probably took half the people from work up at one time or another.

DW & I made a number of memorable trips (she suffered from motion sickness, but still developed into a pretty good navigator). From home base CHO to as far south as Hilton HEad, west to my home town in Ohio & on to Chicago area. Flying over Meigs was a thrill on that trip, as was being routed over JFK on another. Up & down the East coast including northern Vermont & most of Maine. Taking off from Eastport , ME, actually nicked the Canadian border . Took float plane lessons at Moosehead Lake - where there was a DC3 on floats!

Many, many great memories. Traveling in France, stopped by an "aerodrome" on a rainy Saturday - same familiar scene, pilots & airport bums hanging around swapping lies. When they approached us & found out I was a "pilot americaine", they greeted me like a visiting dignitary, sat us down to coffees, & we got around the language problem well enough to feel comfortable. The clouds parted, & Stephan said - "Let's go flying!" So four of us piled into a beautiful Robin - low wing with bubble canopy, stick - & flew around the beautiful countryside near Besancon. Stephan graciously let me have the stick for a while. I have a picture in front of me now from that day, DW & me (man we were young then!), Stephan & his GF, in front of the plane.

Sadly, those days are probably gone. Sold the plane after 9/11, insurance, maintainance costs & onerous regulation creep being the main reasons. But not a day goes by that I don't think of those times, & what a joy the whole immersion into aviation brought to my life.

Bottom line advice - if you've wanted to do it, & can afford the time commitment & $$$, go ahead & do it. It's a very satisfying thing to master something like that.

Sorry for the hijack & long rambling post, but you pushed my button.


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Hmmm, I haven't seen one of my favs listed. Woodworking. Over the years I've developed a fully stocked shop with all the major tools, and sufficent skill to have sold several pieces.

My ER plan is to "go back in time" and teach myself the "old hand ways". Less noise, less dust, and more relaxing, I hope. And after all, time will be meaningless then.

Oh yeah, and I plan to build myself a sailboat for my wife and I.

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Bottom line advice - if you've wanted to do it, & can afford the time commitment & $$$, go ahead & do it. It's a very satisfying thing to master something like that.

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Interesting to read the responses. Flying is expensive, but also very satisfying and rewarding. The idea of getting a demo flight is good, but unfortunately, it's probably a bad idea to make a full decision about starting to fly based solely on one demo flight. I'd suggest a few lessons before you make a final decision.

Regarding the $80 hamburger trip...I hate to burst your bubble, but $80 won't quite make it anymore. Unless, of course, the burger restaurant is at your home airport and all you do is a few touch and go's before lunch!

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Regarding the $80 hamburger trip...I hate to burst your bubble, but $80 won't quite make it anymore. Unless, of course, the burger restaurant is at your home airport and all you do is a few touch and go's before lunch!
Yup. It was a beat up old Beech Skipper, or maybe a 152. $44 per hour, wet. MKE to Janesville, best burger and apple pie around. Lots of stories, all good.
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Similar story...got my private license back in the 80's while in my 20's. But work, home, family, and $ made me give it up after a while. I had planned to build my own plane at some point, but it turns out that just about no life insurance will cover you while flying a homebuilt plane. Now gardening-woodworking-basketball-soccer-etc keep me busy and satisfied, so I'll probably never take up flying again. But it was fun, and a great challenge to maintain mental discipline in the air.
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