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Old 07-18-2005, 11:51 AM   #61
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As an aside, i used to play the old ad&d pen and paper. I guess I sort of carry on this tradition today with PC games. Anyway, Wisdom and Intelligence are different attributes in this game, each treated as unrelated to the other. I believe some of the more in-depth manuals have some nice descriptions of both, and provide a good overview as to how they have nothing to do with each other.
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Re: Intelligence is irrelevant to a happy old age
Old 07-18-2005, 12:01 PM   #62
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I usually say "common sense and intelligence".* Same thing.

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I agree azanon, that common sense and intelligence are not the same thing. *Intelligence is in a great degree what you are born with, but also how the abilities you were born with, were trained, educated, etc. * Intelligence will help with mastering physical chemistry and quantum mechanics. *Common sense won't help squat.
Common sense is exactly that...common. A sense of what one should do. *
So the two would be almost oxymoronic.
Although not mutually exclusive, common sense and intelligence, in my observation, are definitely not always co-possessed.

On the other hand JG, can't think of anyone who feels compelled to announce his intelligence over and over who is sooo highly intelligent. Or at least anyone over the age of eight.

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This has been quantified in the past with questionairres and coorelation studies where people took IQ tests, and were later asked to rate their happiness level. Positive correlation was found.

No, i dont recall where i saw this study or who did it.
This is a well known correlation in the medical literature that has made it's way into the lay press. A quick lit search in pubmed (free) would turn 'em up.
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As an aside, i used to play the old ad&d pen and paper. I guess I sort of carry on this tradition today with PC games. Anyway, Wisdom and Intelligence are different attributes in this game, each treated as unrelated to the other. I believe some of the more in-depth manuals have some nice descriptions of both, and provide a good overview as to how they have nothing to do with each other.
Dude, I hung with such a nerdy crowd, we use to say things like, "ha, you failed your dexterity roll!" when someone tripped. Loved that game, Shadowrun, GERPS, Rifts, Star Wars RPG etc.

That positive correlation between I.Q. and happiness, I would be interested in reading more about that, I'll do some research. I would think the correlation would taper off as you got more than 2 or three standard deviations from the norm. It seems extremely high I.Q. people are often misfit/outcasts
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Over the years my personal definition of success has changed. I used to think it was about achievement, or money, or education. Most very intelligent people eventually manage to excell in one of these areas...yet many of them are still discontent. The ability to solve complex problems seems a little hollow if it doesn't also include the ability to enjoy life. Intelligence is a gift that is not earned. You either have it or you dont, so mere posession isn't much more admirable than winning the lottery. I guess the point of this ramble is that I admire those who are able to enjoy and appreciate the world around them, intelligent or no.
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Over the years my personal definition of success has changed.* I used to think it was about achievement, or money, or education.* Most very intelligent people eventually manage to excell in one of these areas...yet many of them are still discontent.* The ability to solve complex problems seems a little hollow if it doesn't also include the ability to enjoy life.* Intelligence is a gift that is not earned. You either have it or you dont, so mere posession isn't much more admirable than winning the lottery.* I guess the point of this ramble is that I admire those who are able to enjoy and appreciate the world around them, intelligent or no.* *
The same thing could be said for those born as one of the "beautiful people", except that beauty fades far more quickly than intelligence. In fact, if you're born beautiful, you often don't feel the need to use your brain, since people will treat you better based on your looks.
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I don't see why intelligence *should* be correlated to happiness.* *Intelligence is like good vision.* *Sure, it's nice to be able to see clearly and to see distant objects.* *But if you have poor vision, everybody looks good.* *
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Beer goggles??*
Or are they called "geer boggles"?
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Spend a day without your glasses, and you won't be happy.
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. . .I'd like to put all my money in a trust, and then become an ignorant dumba$$.


Reminds me of an old college philosophy paper assignment: *Write a paper answering the question, "Is it better to be Socrates dissatisfied or a pig satisfied?"

The problem is, by the time you are able to ask the question, it's too late to be the pig. *
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