Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-02-2017, 02:08 AM   #21
Confused about dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 8
Hey all, OP here. Thanks so much for all the feedback. It's a lot to process, and I don't think I'm up for individual replies. I do appreciate everyone's contribution.
__________________

__________________
ChugiakTinkerer is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 12-02-2017, 07:26 AM   #22
Dryer sheet aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 49
As you move into retirement the main advantage you will have flying is that you can wait out bad weather, especially since it sounds like you will mainly be flying to and from your remote property. Unfortunately Alaska has a high rate of GA aircraft accidents and while a lot of them are weather related a lot are also due to lack of aircraft maintenance and pilot proficiently when each year hunters pull out their aircraft only for hunting season. Hearing stories anecdotally of Super Cub fabric being repaired with duct tape just to get another year or two before recovering or no annuals being done as most flights are out of a home strip flying only to remote flights. A lot of accidents are also high time IFR pilots flying VFR in areas where there is no air traffic radar coverage, weather radar, weather reporting stations or cameras.

By all means become IFR rated if able but more importantly become the most proficient VFR pilot possible, also learn and understand SVFR procedures as SVFR is used more in AK than about any other place. Buy and maintain your airplane with the latest and greatest ELT, SPOT or other location service devices, sat phone, don’t skimp on aircraft maintenance. Learn and use all available sources you can about weather from FAA FSS, NWS weather cams and computer services. File VFR fight plans every flight. And if weather is crappy sit tight at home or your cabin, better days will just be around the corner. A colleague use to say if “you can go by air if you have time to spare” and being retired you will certainly have time to wait our weather or other obstacles. You have two great FSS’s in your area at PAQ and ENA, visit and use them.
__________________

__________________
painterbill is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 10:20 AM   #23
Dryer sheet wannabe
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: DFW
Posts: 19
Old flight instructor here: I think you should make an appointment to get your Airman's Medical right away. This should probably be step one, before spending any money.


(Apologies if this was covered upthread, I didn't see any mention of it though)
__________________
At the end, your life will summed up by two numbers and a dash -- make the most of the dash.
pullin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 10:29 AM   #24
Full time employment: Posting here.
Pilot2013's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville
Posts: 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by pullin View Post
Old flight instructor here: I think you should make an appointment to get your Airman's Medical right away. This should probably be step one, before spending any money.


(Apologies if this was covered upthread, I didn't see any mention of it though)
Not necessary (for Class 3) after the Medical reform. Just have to have your Dr. fill out some forms.
__________________
Pilot2013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 10:50 AM   #25
Full time employment: Posting here.
OldShooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: City
Posts: 972
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot2013 View Post
Not necessary (for Class 3) after the Medical reform. Just have to have your Dr. fill out some forms.
My understanding is that you can get the "BasicMed" only after you have passed at least one full FAA physical.

Rules here: https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...ion/basic_med/

@Pullen makes an excellent point though. Better to make sure one can get a medical before spending the money to get to the solo point where the medical is required. If the OP has any specific questions, the Aviation Medical Examiner guide book is here: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...aam/ame/guide/ Not an easy read, sometimes, but definitive.
__________________
OldShooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 12:38 PM   #26
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Senator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Eagan, MN
Posts: 3,067
Quote:
Originally Posted by painterbill View Post
Unfortunately Alaska has a high rate of GA aircraft accidents and while a lot of them are weather related a lot are also due to lack of aircraft maintenance and pilot proficiently when each year hunters pull out their aircraft only for hunting season. Hearing stories anecdotally of Super Cub fabric being repaired with duct tape just to get another year or two before recovering or no annuals being done as most flights are out of a home strip flying only to remote flights. A lot of accidents are also high time IFR pilots flying VFR in areas where there is no air traffic radar coverage, weather radar, weather reporting stations or cameras.
I was on a fly in hunt in 1988. Sitting on the packs in the back of the airplane. I think it was a super cub, I know it was a canvas sided plane. The pilot did not have enough gas to fly in and out from the spot, so he brought in gas to the spot on the previous trip. We were flying with floats.

On the flight in, after we got through the 'pass', we got fogged in. Maybe 1/4 mile visibility, if that. VFR only. Not enough gas to get back, we had to press on to the landing place and the extra gas. The pilot said "Don't worry, I know the cliffs". I was wondering if the pilots headed our way knew the cliffs too...

The pilot did say he only had one bad accident in which the landing gear collapsed. He said he was only a few hundred pounds overweight. He said it should not have collapsed, as he had been as much as 800 lbs over on previous flights.
__________________
FIRE no later than 7/5/2016 at 56 (done), securing '16 401K match (done), getting '15 401K match (done), LTI Bonus (done), Perf bonus (done), maxing out 401K (done), picking up 1,000 hours to get another year of pension (done), July 1st benefits (vacation day, healthcare) (done), July 4th holiday. 0 days left. (done) OFFICIALLY RETIRED 7/5/2016!!
Senator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 01:55 PM   #27
Moderator
Walt34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern WV Panhandle
Posts: 16,571
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator View Post
On the flight in, after we got through the 'pass', we got fogged in. Maybe 1/4 mile visibility, if that. VFR only. Not enough gas to get back, we had to press on to the landing place and the extra gas. The pilot said "Don't worry, I know the cliffs". I was wondering if the pilots headed our way knew the cliffs too...

The pilot did say he only had one bad accident in which the landing gear collapsed. He said he was only a few hundred pounds overweight. He said it should not have collapsed, as he had been as much as 800 lbs over on previous flights.
Wow, if that's common practice in Alaska no wonder the accident record is so poor. I for one would refuse to fly with a fool like that.

He plans on flying into someplace where the weather cannot be known without enough fuel to turn around and routinely flies over gross? That's the proverbial "accident going someplace to happen".
__________________
I heard the call to do nothing. So I answered it.
Walt34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 02:58 PM   #28
Full time employment: Posting here.
Pilot2013's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville
Posts: 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldShooter View Post
My understanding is that you can get the "BasicMed" only after you have passed at least one full FAA physical.

Rules here: https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...ion/basic_med/

@Pullen makes an excellent point though. Better to make sure one can get a medical before spending the money to get to the solo point where the medical is required. If the OP has any specific questions, the Aviation Medical Examiner guide book is here: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...aam/ame/guide/ Not an easy read, sometimes, but definitive.
Yep, you are right. My bad.
__________________
Pilot2013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 03:43 PM   #29
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
teejayevans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,226
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunset View Post
I was going to ask how much $$$ it costs, then decided to just bing for it.

This article goes through the hourly amortized cost of a used plane, and it is much cheaper to rent than own. These are expensive toys.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-...-a-small-plane
I log close to 200 hours a year, I use it for trips, not just flying around the practice area. If using for trips you will be charged a minimum daily rate because they figure they cannot rent it out while you have it. If you are planning to take trips itís probably better to own.
__________________
teejayevans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 06:31 PM   #30
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Senator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Eagan, MN
Posts: 3,067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34 View Post
Wow, if that's common practice in Alaska no wonder the accident record is so poor. I for one would refuse to fly with a fool like that.

He plans on flying into someplace where the weather cannot be known without enough fuel to turn around and routinely flies over gross? That's the proverbial "accident going someplace to happen".
I think it is very common in AK. Many even strap a 16' boat between the gear to transport it. I am not sure how the aerodynamics get impacted, but I am sure it makes a difference.

I flew with the bush pilot before I had any ground training, so I assumed what he said was true and OK. He also said, "I have floats, I can land anywhere", as he pointed to the ocean below.

It looked like 10' seas, but maybe it was only 3-5' waves. I took him at his word. I am glad I did not have to see if he could land anywhere. Maybe I should have asked "Land safely anywhere?"

An airplane will always land, walking away from the landing is a critical piece of the puzzle if I am on that plane.

I did see him a a sports show after that flight. he mentioned that was one of his scariest flights. He held his cool though.

There are old pilots, and bold pilots,but no old, bold pilots.
__________________
FIRE no later than 7/5/2016 at 56 (done), securing '16 401K match (done), getting '15 401K match (done), LTI Bonus (done), Perf bonus (done), maxing out 401K (done), picking up 1,000 hours to get another year of pension (done), July 1st benefits (vacation day, healthcare) (done), July 4th holiday. 0 days left. (done) OFFICIALLY RETIRED 7/5/2016!!
Senator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2017, 07:16 PM   #31
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Rustward's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,573
__________________
Rustward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 06:43 AM   #32
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ExFlyBoy5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,977
Speaking of Alaska, there was a guy (Shaun Lunt) that made frequent trips up there for photography and his pictures are absolutely beautiful.

Here is his blog that has most of his pictures: Due Up

That sad part of the story is that Shaun was 33 and living a "perfect life" when he died in 2008. He was flying in Alaska taking some pictures and "spun in" his plane. Weather was not a contributing factor, but it illustrates that if you aren't aware and aren't careful, the hobby can kill you.
__________________
Founder and Head Lounger @ The Life of Leisure Institute
Retired in 2014 at the Ripe Age of 40.
ExFlyBoy5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 07:21 AM   #33
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
Posts: 666
I got my PPL at 55, I was already retired. I was told, and agree that you need to fly around twice a week during training to stay proficient.

I would defiantly rent during training, i know some of my landings were not the best. I did buy my plane before I got my PPL, but I was close to taking my check ride.

Iíve owned my plane now for 5-1/2 years and have flow around 550 hrs in it. It is expensive, but renting doesnít appeal to me. I like knowing how the plane is maintained and treated. And the ability to go on a trip and return when I like.
__________________
dm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 09:17 AM   #34
Full time employment: Posting here.
Pilot2013's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville
Posts: 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by dm View Post
And the ability to go on a trip and return when I like.
Biggest reason for ownership.
__________________
Pilot2013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 10:30 AM   #35
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator View Post

I thought it was an expensive way to kill yourself.

Too funny! Could describe much of life (none of us get out alive), but still...
__________________
LARS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 11:15 AM   #36
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Souschef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Santa Paula
Posts: 1,197
My favorite quote about flying is:
A mile of highway will take you a mile
A mile of runway will take you anywhere.
__________________
Retired Jan 2009 Have not looked back.
AA 95%/0/5
WR 2% SI 2SS & 2 Pensions
Souschef is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2017, 12:09 PM   #37
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Souschef View Post
My favorite quote about flying is:
A mile of highway will take you a mile
A mile of runway will take you anywhere.
Exactly.

Here is a link to one of the videos from a circumnavigation of the globe recently completed by two guys in a Cessna 210. The pilot is J-P Schulze, a 23 year old recreational flyer.

https://youtu.be/z_mOOrqEV-0

https://www.flybeyondborders.com

That’s as close as I will ever get to learning to fly.
__________________
Meadbh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2017, 04:53 AM   #38
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Koolau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Leeward Oahu
Posts: 3,244
I learned to fly in the early '70s. Much has changed since than and I haven't flown for years. If you check around the net and/or talk to current pilots I think you will find that private pilots are becoming an endangered species. Gummint regs and red tape have added to the already high costs of flying. Additionally the insurance costs have soared - I'm sure you can guess why. All this has taken a lot of the fun out of flying.

Little FBOs that once grew up around every small city are virtually gone now. Back in the day, these little strips offered tie-downs or even hangers for not much money. Everyone knew everyone and helped the new guys avoid pitfalls associated with low-time pilots and questionable aircraft sales. Now, you'll likely fly in and out of regional airports and pay a fortune to just store or rent an aircraft.

But if you're serious about learning to fly, there is one option which can help cut costs significantly. Join (or preferably) form a flying partnership or club. One aircraft owned by 3 or 4 people is about right for people all getting their PPL and typical 100 to 150 hours/year flying. Be certain to do you due diligence and maybe get some legal assistance. Much as I miss it, I'd never do it again in today's GenAV climate. YMMV
__________________
Ko'olau's Law -

Anything which can be used can be misused. Anything which can be misused will be.
Koolau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2017, 08:48 AM   #39
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Souschef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Santa Paula
Posts: 1,197
I am sorry, but I disagree with Koolau. I also learned to fly in the 70's. i am still a very active pilot, flying about 70 hours so far this year.
There are still many small airports around, like the one I fly from. I regularly fly through some of the most congested airspace around in Southern California. Once you are familiar with the restrictions, it is not a problem.

Yes, there have been changes in the airspace, but it is not too difficult to understand them. The FAA has just recently updated the requirements to get a pilot's license, but there is now an emphasis on good decision making.

I have renter's insurance with high liability coverage, and it is less than $200 a year.
I recently did a study on owning a Cessna 172, based on flying 50 hours a year. I included insurance, annual inspections, etc. It came out almost a wash with renting. The thing I like about renting is that it is turnkey. The plane gets parked and gassed, and all the required maintenance is performed.
__________________
Retired Jan 2009 Have not looked back.
AA 95%/0/5
WR 2% SI 2SS & 2 Pensions
Souschef is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2017, 02:18 PM   #40
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Western NC
Posts: 250
Your renter's insurance covers aircraft?

My homeowners and umbrella specifically excludes coverage for any claims (liability or property damage) arising from operating an aircraft.

So I pay over $1000/year for $1 million liability/$100,000 airframe coverage for my student pilot.
__________________

__________________
ncbill is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Meet my new service animal: we fly first class brewer12345 Other topics 20 03-20-2011 01:17 PM
Learning on the fly with penny stocks? Keyboard Ninja Stock Picking and Market Strategy 23 06-08-2008 07:15 PM
Fly naked on Germany's first nudist holiday flight Wags Other topics 14 01-31-2008 08:00 AM
Fly Swatter Technology OldAgePensioner Other topics 27 10-02-2007 12:03 PM
Dumb Americans and let the arrows fly! newguy88 Other topics 38 02-16-2007 07:30 PM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:54 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.