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Old 01-11-2015, 09:00 AM   #21
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What's the difference (if any) between a mobile home and a manufactured home? From the photos some look like the manufactured homes I'm use to seeing, others look like a 5th wheel that have been set up to be semi-permanent. I live in a rural area of Arizona and see many manufactured homes out here but most are on acreage (lands cheap), not in a development, and don't look very mobile.
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:25 AM   #22
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I can say that the homes in the park where my family lives in SoCal are truly Manufactured Homes, not Mobile Homes (almost all double-wide manufactured homes). I don't think they are meant to ever be moved.

My uncle had a fully modern straight-from-the-factory Manufactured Home installed in his space about 6 years ago (maybe 1300 square feet). The total cost was about $85,000 installed. I think this included carpets, all the counters and cupboards, drywall instead of paneling as on many older models, finished bathrooms, all installation costs, etc. Just to give an idea on costs for higher end and brand new. There is also some outside living space (porch).

Edit: This is for the unit only, not the space.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:34 PM   #23
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What's the difference (if any) between a mobile home and a manufactured home?
A mobile home is designed to be able to be moved again although in practice relatively few actually are. Manufactured homes are also built in a factory and under roof, then transported to a prepared site and, depending on size, either just plunked down or assembled there. They can come in sizes from one trailer-size unit to (I think) up to eight sections that are attached together. Once assembled they are not designed to ever move again.

One BIL lives in one that was four sections. Unless you know the details to look for it is indistinguishable from a house stick-built on site.
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Most manufactured houses are designed to set on a foundation or slab. They do not have the ability to be self-supporting. Mobile homes have a frame that is the main support and, as Walt said, are designed to be able to move in the future. Mobile homes usually have the skirting around the bottom, since the floor is raised off ground level. A manufactured house can be only 1-2 steps off ground level, like a typical house.
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Folks on one of the lots across the street from me have a manufactured home on a lower level. The lower level was framed on a concrete foundation with the front half a family room and the back half a garage. You would never know it was a manufactured home if someone did not tell you. It came in two halves that were lifted into place with a large crane and then bolted together. The owner said he had some problems with leaks along the seam at first, but he caulked all along the seam and hasn't had a problem in the last 6 or so years. If you saw where it sits, you would say there is no way for those things to be trucked up there and lifted into place by a crane.
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Our experience with late-model mobile homes has been that because they're built in a factory with tight tolerances rather than stick-built on site they're very tightly sealed...so much so that having a good carbon monoxide detector is much more important than with a relatvely drafty regular home. For those, like us, on a tight budget the realistic comparison even in a low-cost town like Cañon City is between a late-model mobile and a smaller and older stick-built house, many of which are "money pits" both in terms of needing ongoing work and for their high gas and electric bills, need to invest in new double-pane windows, etc. Cañon in particular has a large number of lovely older Victorians for sale at low prices - and those we know who've bought them live in discomfort (few or no closets, drafty, poorly insulated) and seem to put thousands into them every year.

Anyway, both mobiles and manufactured homes on a foundation are always going to be the choice of a small percentage of folks, but for those who plan to travel extensively - wanting a home base rather than all that goes with a home - or for minimalists and/or extreme cheapskates they can make sense. Where I see them really being of benefit is in high-cost places (like our old home of Boulder, Colorado) where they're the only affordble alternative to sharing walls in shoebox-sized condos or apartments with high HOA fees or tying up 400-500K in "starter" houses.
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Where I see them really being of benefit is in high-cost places (like our old home of Boulder, Colorado) where they're the only affordble alternative to sharing walls in shoebox-sized condos or apartments with high HOA fees or tying up 400-500K in "starter" houses.
Doesn't someone have to die or move away before one can move into Boulder?
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Doesn't someone have to die or move away before one can move into Boulder?
Pretty much. Current median home price in Boulder according to Trulia is $483,500. Meanwhile lot rent at the nicest mobile home park in the city, Boulder Meadows, is $614 a month and I see late model mobiles for sale there from 29K. No wonder the place is full of not just working families but university professors and savvy early retirees!
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Small world. 16,000 population in Canon city, don't recall hearing of it before this thread, and a few days after the thread am watching one of the new Amazon pilot programs and there taking a prominent role, a destination in the plot, is Canon City. Complete with the right location and elevation.
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I've been checking out the real estate in the area, because that's what we do, and the rents are awful cheap to my eye - like 1200' for $5-550? Bunch of stuff on the market with a long time on the market.

So is the Royal Gorge bridge repaired? Looks like a pretty close in fire...
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calm, I saw that as well and thought the same thing: cool! I actually know where that is now.


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I'm more-than-a-little ambivalent about posting here, given that most who share their stories here seem to have saved millions, have pensions and megacorp health insurance, etc., but perhaps there'll be some benefit for those hoping to retire (or having to do so, through no choice of their own!) on much less.

I want to make it clear at the outset than I'm most definitely not recommending the kind of shoestring early retirement described here to anyone. My wife and I exited the corporate world prematurely and would've stayed with it much longer if we had it to do over. Still I've run across enough people forced out of jobs in their late 50's or early 60's, or with health or family issues who have found themselves having to live on a Social Security-like income long before SS kicks in, and thought that sharing a few experiences might be of some use to that tiny handful of readers. Since like many here I'm a big fan of Mr. Money Mustache's blog, I'll just say that this is the "high class trailer trash" version of what he recommends, from someone with only a fraction of his assets and smarts!

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And how do you think a lot of people acquired their million+ portfolios? Most by being frugal. We did a thread here on our cars, and it was an eye opener lol. I also frequent a van dweller site and have friends living VERY frugal existences - some because they wish, others who have no choice. No snobbery here - it's generally not tolerated.

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The friends who were looking for a house in Cañon City bought a house last week. It one block north of the main retail street which is one block north of the highway. It is an old Victorian. They are thrilled.

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We love Canon City (the cabin is up past the Southern entrance to the gorge). However, are selling the cabin to move to Reno to be located closer to old oldest son and his wife in the California Central valley.
The OP is right about the charm of the area, particularly if you like smaller towns, although I grew up in several much smaller towns. Colorado Spring and Pueblo are close. And the brown trout in the Arkansas are big (but wily). Monarch Ski area is a little more than an hour away. Great town.
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