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Old 03-11-2016, 08:15 PM   #21
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If they ask for payment in Bitcoin or some type of money pack you buy from a store,nth at is a sure sign of fraud.


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Old 03-11-2016, 08:33 PM   #22
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So as I understand it, MS has employed a HUGE call center of people who, as a courtesy, call customers when their machines throw out error codes. If that were the case, Americas phone systems would go down (wireless and landline).
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What 'Microsoft phone number' did she give? One on a Microsoft website (that anyone could provide)? Did you hang up and call her back on an official Microsoft number?

What did you do with her 'employee ID'? How would you have any idea if that was legit?

Did you really think for one instant this was not a scam?
The phone number was an 888 type number, even though she was calling from a non-888 number, 310-415-6129. Her employee ID was something that started with a W.

I assumed it was a scam, I just let her say her piece. I called her a spammer as soon as she said she was from Microsoft, and almost hung up right away.

I can bet that since people still fall for the Nigerian email scam, this one is a easy one to fall for.
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For one thing, no one at Microsoft has the time to monitor what your PC is doing nor cares about what errors you might have. They are in the business of selling software, not troubleshooting. And no one can afford to call you out of the blue without having been paid to troubleshoot by you upfront. Of course it's a scam.

It's the same as someone ringing your doorbell unsolicited to tell you they can replace all your front bushes for you because they noticed one is looking odd shaped.




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I think this is an old scammer. I don't think Microsoft has money to hire people and call everybody like that. However, I'm not sure everybody is aware of this scam, I told my husband to never answer the phone ever for this particular reason.


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I got a slightly different version on 3/11. They were calling from Best Buy since I had 'bought my computer there.' I had not.

Next time I might try the this call is recorded....response or I might ask which computer & when did I buy it at BB.

Clues it is a scam
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I got a call from ATT trying to sell me upgraded service. I told them that I didn't have a phone.

Then what did you answer the call with? Your shoe?ImageUploadedByEarly Retirement Forum1457782658.158685.jpg


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I never have discussions with unknown people who contact me over the phone or through e-mail. And I never use any information or link they send me.

It's easy enough to track down an independent phone number for the company in question (in this case Microsoft) and call them directly to take care of whatever problem your mysterious caller highlighted.

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We used to get these calls all the time and we only have Apple machines. Used to confuse the scammers when I told them that.
I tried this and the next day I got a call from "an Apple" rep ( with a similar accent).
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A call from out of the blue is a clear sign of a scam. But sometimes things don't seem out of the blue like if you just bought something from ebay, but then get an email saying that a purchase didn't go through. That can fake someone out if not paying attention.
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Then what did you answer the call with? Your shoe?
It is amazing what one can deny. In a later dispute with ATT, a supervisor there told me she did not have a personal telephone number - just the 1-800- WAITnWAIT number.
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Clues it is a scam
loud, much talking in the background
heavy Indian accent of the CSR

I do not agree with this, the fact that it is a cold call is all the 'clue' you need.

I used to read this about email scams ' look for misspelled words, bad grammar, etc', no - it's unsolicited, either ignore it, or go directly to the source.

So if one of these scammers cleans up their act, you will fall for it? Just say NO.

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I never have discussions with unknown people who contact me over the phone or through e-mail. And I never use any information or link they send me.

It's easy enough to track down an independent phone number for the company in question (in this case Microsoft) and call them directly to take care of whatever problem your mysterious caller highlighted.

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The phone number was an 888 type number, even though she was calling from a non-888 number, 310-415-6129. Her employee ID was something that started with a W.
As a former Microsoft employee I can tell you that there are no letters in the employee ID
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:37 AM   #35
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The notion that Msoft would employ hundreds or thousands of technical folks to monitor the health of individuals home PCs is amusing to me.

Why? Why would an OS vendor care? They didn't monitor Megacorp's machines and they gave Msoft millions every year! Let's see I paid ~$129.00 for a license several years ago and they're monitoring it cause they don't care about profits. Wow!

I did enterprise IT most of my career never has a OS supplier called up and said "been monitoring some issues on your servers let me fix that for you". It does happen with enterprise class hardware as it phones home with issues. If you want that for your home machines get a fat checkbook ready.
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A call from out of the blue is a clear sign of a scam. But sometimes things don't seem out of the blue like if you just bought something from ebay, but then get an email saying that a purchase didn't go through. That can fake someone out if not paying attention.
This is also what can work with those bank email phishing scams where the email tells you your online banking has been locked out and to click on this link to reactivate it. My ladyfriend had been having some problems with her online banking and just happened to receive one of these fake emails, the one-in-a-million shot the phishers hope for. She knew, of course, not to click on the link but the email was surely well timed and a lesser savvy person might have fallen for it. She forwarded the email to the bank's fraud/abuse department and repaired her actual online banking problem through the bank's official tech support line.
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You also need to be careful if you google for a vendor support number INSTEAD of going directly to the vendor site.

There are many phoney sits set up to look like vendor site and to receive problem calls. They will ask for a credit card number early on in the conversation and will even confirm that they are a vendor site. scammers.

My sister almost got caught in a look a like Hp site. She split when they asked for credit card data. She called Hp...they told her that this is a real problem for all of the reputable vendors.

The vendors spend a lot of time and energy tracking these guys down and closing them up. they simply pop back up a few days later
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What a joke! Microsoft wanting to help you without asking for a credit card first!
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I used to get this call. I try and sound elderly and tell them that my PC is old and will take some time to boot up. I politely ask them if they can wait ( which they can, of course). After a few minutes they ask if I am still there and I tell them I am. After another few minutes I tell them that it is almost done and that they must be right because it seems it is taking longer than usual to start up. Then I put the phone on my cuckoo clock with its loud obnoxious tick-tock sound.

I figure I've saved 5 - 10 other people from getting the same call
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I got this scam call today. The caller asked me if I was the principal user of the computer in our household. When I told her it was none of her effing business, she swore at me in her Indian accent and hung up on me. It was the most entertaining part of my day.
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