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Old 09-07-2005, 08:40 AM   #21
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If gilligan would have spent more time on the bamboo exercise bike he probably would've lasted a few more years
That of course is strictly conjecture and might even have killed him earlier. His father (famous side kick co-star of many Errol Flynn movies) died of a heart attack at only 50 or something like that.

And as far as Mr. Howell goes.... He was one of my first FIRE inspirations. There is an episode where he exclaims: People don't realize how hard OTHER people have to work just to make me rich! I was 7 yrs old but I had discovered the stock market.

Gomez Addams was my other mentor. Remember how he used to stand in the living room with the "gum ball machine" stock ticker selling "Amalgamated" and buying "Consolidated"? There IS an easier way to put food on the table and stay home all day . It's right there on TV.

Talk about subliminal messages affecting young minds.

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Re: Gilligan Dies..........................
Old 09-07-2005, 10:03 AM   #22
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Alright that's it, I've had it, I'm GOING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISLAND!!

What a dippy show. I loved it and saw every episode, of course.

I think GEICO needs to make a Gilligan's Island commercial

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No, they resulted from his bad habits when hanging out with Dobie Gillis.
I thought the only "bad habit" he had was his aversion to "work"
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I vote for Maryann/Mary Ann/Mary Anne, wtf...

Only vaguely remember Dobie Gillis, but do remember Maynard...

Watched every episode of Gilligan, I'd guess...

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Morticia - "Don't torture yourself, Gomez. That's my job..." 8)
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What about the red-headed "Ginger" character? A few years back, there was either a radio or newspaper survey that asked men who they would rather date, a glamorous "Ginger" type or the girl-next door "Maryann" type. The majority of men voted for "Ginger". I would've thought most would've voted for "Maryann". But what do I know, I'm a female. :

Call me weird, but I would have taken Maryann everytime. I believe she has aged better as well.



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That of course is strictly conjecture and might even have killed him earlier. His father (famous side kick co-star of many Errol Flynn movies) died of a heart attack at only 50 or something like that.
Are you referring to Alan Hale's father?
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Good article on Gilligan: http://www.slate.com/id/2125800/

One interesting quote:

"Did Gilligan even want to be rescued? Maybe he was alone among the castaways in appreciating the Rousseauistic perfection of their island life, with its unlimited supply of coconuts, the endless inventions of the Professor, and the virgin/whore dialectics of female beauty represented by Mary Ann and Ginger."

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That of course is strictly conjecture and might even have killed him earlier. His father (famous side kick co-star of many Errol Flynn movies) died of a heart attack at only 50 or something like that.
I screwed that up. This is referring to Alan Hale jr, the guy who played The Skipper. *HE* died in his 70's. Alan Hale Sr died young from a heart attack
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We all know Mr. and Mrs. Howell were FIRE, but what about the rest of the people on the island?*

As soon as they boarded that tiny ship and landed on the island, they didn't have to work for money, so maybe they technically were FIRE.* They had a zero budget since they could not spend any money anyway, and they didn't even need to worry about a SWR.

They has no phones, no lights, no motor car, not a single luxury, so they only had to worry about harvasting and cooking food, and trying to keep the headhunters from killing them.



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This topic is in the "Life after FIRE" section. I hope that doesn't mean that we should be spending our retirement time watching reruns!
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the virgin/whore dialectics of female beauty represented by Mary Ann and Ginger."[/i]
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That is a good insight about G's Island. In many hollywood movies you find the whore/saint syndrone. The whore has a golden hart (see "Pretty Woman").

On G's Island they split the whore/saint into two characters.

Now that I think about it, the show does have its Freudian aspects:
Id = Gilligan
Ego = Skipper
Superego = Professor
Libido = Ginger/Maryann - whore/saint; sex/motherhood
Howels = the physical world's wants and needs

This is the same Freudian set up in the original Star Trek
Id = McCoy
Ego = Kirk
Superego = Spock
Libido = Scotty
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Good article on Gilligan: http://www.slate.com/id/2125800/
Bad song *by* Gilligan:
http://www.empty-handed.com/mp3/Bob_...-_Ho_Daddy.mp3

http://www.empty-handed.com/archive/...07.html#002006
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:56 PM   #33
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What an interesting thread, truly. The analogies and banter are great. I never saw Dobie but had heard of Maynard Krebs - although my understanding of the Beat generation was more than aversion to work and rather dark for a philosophical bent.

Thanks for the entertainment!

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The Beat generation is a very misunderstood generation. The idea that it was not in favor of work is just a factor of the times. It was a time of a strong middle class and work ethic. Those into beat were artist interested in the new wave of art, music, poetry etc., some might say interllectuals and the begining of the counterculteral movement in this country. I think they were of the baby bust generation befor the boomer generation. The beat generation came just before the dominance of the baby boomers and the rise of youth/popular culture.

I'm no expert but read "Howel" by Ginsberg?, Jack Keroak. I think Herman Hess may fit in here but I'm not sure.
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More comments on Gilligan:

"...And yet we cling to Gilligan's Island, among the stupidest shows ever made. We cling to it because the doe-eyed, brunette, small-town girl is so much sexier than the curvy red-haired movie star—at least to my adolescent eyes and, on the evidence of her mail, millions of others. We cling to it because there is an absence of any sexualized male to spoil this paradise. We cling to it because it shows us an orderly society in which the super-rich, the Howells, have their airs and their endearing obliviousness to those who labor on their behalf—but when all is said and done are literally in the same boat. Which is definitely not the society in which we live now. After all, says today's Mrs. Howell: Those people are so much happier in the Astrodome.

And so, my friends, repeat after me: "Skipper, watch out for that"—BONK!

Thanks, Gilligan. ..."


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