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[cute fuzzy bunny]

Perfect planning for me would be for the check Gabe writes to his undertaker to bounce, preferably 80-100 years from now, unless he has kids he wants to leave it to.

Heck, maybe he can build it up to a few hundred billion and take a run at Anna Nicole Smiths great-great-great granddaughter.

Originally Posted by Sr. Senor Cute 'n' Fuzzy Bunny

Perfect planning for me would be for the check Gabe writes to his undertaker to bounce, preferably 80-100 years from now, unless he has kids he wants to leave it to.

Heck, maybe he can build it up to a few hundred billion and take a run at Anna Nicole Smiths great-great-great granddaughter.

I think you would like Gabe to make his own way in the world. - That is part of the experience. - You can't really appreciate retirement unless you've been a wage slave.

[cute fuzzy bunny]

I aint planning on writing any undertaker checks for about 30-40 years, min. I figure he'll have made his own fortune by then or at least be settled in his life, maybe married, maybe with kids of his own. If I can pass on the bonanza of instant FI to him, thats ok.

Whats that saying? You win it, you steal it or you inherit it?

[2B]

I have been described as a obnonious a*****e before. One of the things I do is attack the people I work with that seem fixated on "having enough money to retire." They are always 67 years old and living on the illusion they need 150% of their current salary to retire. Unfortunately, they usually have car payments and deadbeat kids getting support.

I usually attack them (politely, of course) with the observation I have had that people over 65 that "don't have enough to retire" never will. They leave the work force when they die or become disabled or their wife needs their constant care. There's a guy where I work that is well on his way to 70 that is still saving for his retirement. His health is poor. If he lives with a reasonable life ability for 5 more years I'll be shocked.

[JPatrick]

Sorry about your friend.
If you have lived in snow country you have probably lost someone you know to "shoveling snow."
Snow sucks* *

[haha]

Originally Posted by JPatrick

Sorry about your friend.
If you have lived in snow country you have probably lost someone you know to "shoveling snow."
Snow sucks* *

Is that just because it is really hard work, or becaue it is hard work done in the cold?

Ha

Originally Posted by HaHa

Is that just because it is really hard work, or becaue it is hard work done in the cold?

Ha

I think the lifting puts a lot of pressure on the heart. And people tend to over do it, because they see the end of the driveway.

[Dawg54]

I've shoveled plenty of dog poop but never had to deal with snow.* * In fact I don't think I have seen any snow in over 5 years.

Sorry about your buddy.

[Martha]

I think about this sometimes when I shovel snow. I kinda like shoveling, (I know, weird), but I do try to take small shovel loads. And I now use a light weight plastic shovel.

I too know people who died shoveling snow.

[Maximillion]

I have a Snow Thrower, my Dad has had several Girl Friends all whose husbands died within the first two years of retirement.

[dory36]

Originally Posted by Cut-Throat

I think you would like Gabe to make his own way in the world. - That is part of the experience.* - You can't really appreciate retirement unless you've been a wage slave.

You're perhaps right, but an idea that just jumped out at me when I heard it ... Someone on the TMF RE forum years ago talked about giving $10k, the tax free gift limit, to a grandchild at age 0 or 1, but putting it in a trust payable to them at age 40 or 50.

Lots of interesting implications.

[Zipper]

I've been hand bombing snow all my life. We got off easy this year compared to last.

It's like cutting lawns and doing yardwork.

Some pointers.
1. Make sure you are fit and don't have a beer gut.
2. Shovel for 5 minutes, rest for 1 minute, continue the pattern until done.
3. Always allow yourself enough time so you don't have to rush.
4. Don't be a hero. Let the young guys push out someone who's stuck.
5. Take half an aspirin a day.
6. If you smoke, get your kids to do it for you, or pay a neighbour kid.
7. Keep ahead of the game and don't let it pile up too high. Especially if it's wet and heavy.

Zipper, a Lake Huron Snowbelt Veteran.

[73ss454]

Originally Posted by Zipper

I've been hand bombing snow all my life. We got off easy this year compared to last.

It's like cutting lawns and doing yardwork.

Some pointers.
1. Make sure you are fit and don't have a beer gut.
2. Shovel for 5 minutes, rest for 1 minute, continue the pattern until done.
3. Always allow yourself enough time so you don't have to rush.
4. Don't be a hero. Let the young guys push out someone who's stuck.
5. Take half an aspirin a day.
6. If you smoke, get your kids to do it for you, or pay a neighbour kid.
7. Keep ahead of the game and don't let it pile up too high. Especially if it's wet and heavy.

Zipper, a Lake Huron Snowbelt Veteran.

8) Move to Florida

[MJ]

I had a former work colleague who while shoveling snow got a mild heartattack. He was out of shape and smoked a lot. I don't particularly like snow but enjoy shoveling snow as I see it is healthy invigorating exercise. When I am on a roll, I even shovel my neighbor's sidewalks as well.

[ladelfina]

$10k, the tax free gift limit

It's now $11k, I think.

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My mom is now in her late 70s and keeps shoveling snow. The secret is to go out and shovel multiple times while it is snowing, so you're only doing a couple inches of fresh snow at a time. Waiting until it is a huge sodden or icy mass spells disaster.

[Eagle43]

When we lived in New Hampshire Base Housing, an Oklahoma boy and a New Orleans Boy (me) were first out, usually, with the shovels while it was snowing. The people who were from cold country just waited until (a) it stopped snowing or (b) we got it all stashed. And yes, it seemed every year somebody died shoveling snow. Snow blowers are life savers.

[KB]

for 2006, the gifting limit is $12,000.

[SteveR]

C_T, sorry about your friend. Life is unpredictable and death can come when you least expect it. Case in point.

I received an email this morning from a widower friend I have corresponded with for a couple of years. The note turned out to from his wife informing his friends that he had died suddenly yesterday. No details, just that he died. It was quite a shock as we had become quite close over the past year due to some issues he was dealing with.

Yesterday we also almost lost a manager here. He had been skiing and after he got home felt bad and had chest pains. Long story short...he had an aortic aneurism. The caught it right before it burst. He is in the ICU now and is in serious conditon.

You never know when your number comes up. You just have to make each day one you don't regret.

[poboy]

What is this thing called "snow" that so many mention on this thread?