audreyh1
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DW and I are both 60. I have been retired since 2009. She is retiring this year. We both have pensions. I HATE paying taxes and will do most anything to defer them till later. The biggest mistake we have made is that we put too much into tax deferred IRAs, 401s and 403bs and not enough into taxable accounts. The assumption early on in our journey to FI was that after retirement we would be in a lower tax bracket. Reality is that after we start collecting SS at 66 and RMDs at 70.5 we will likely be in the dreaded 28% tax bracket or possibly worse depending on whether rates go up over the next decade.. For the next few years before we start drawing SS if we had more cash available outside the deferred accounts we could invest more of it to earn tax free dividends and spend down some of it to keep us in the 15% bracket. As it is we will instead be drawing some from the tax deferred accounts and paying higher taxes. Did I mention that I HATE paying taxes. We could see this situation coming on several years ago and should have rolled more from the tax deferred accounts into our Roth IRA accounts. We will probably this year while still in the 25% bracket move as much as we can without going into the 28% bracket. Overall we are in fine shape with far more money available than we have been spending but better choices over the last few years would have put us into a better position in regards to taxes.
I don't know, y'all, sounds like a "want to have your cake and eat it too" problem to me.
You maxed out on tax-deferred accounts, because at the time, it was most beneficial tax wise. And it may still be - as your money is growing tax-deferred. You can rebalance, or even completely change investments without paying taxes. That is a very big deal. It's only finally now, when you access some of the money, that the tax man shows up to take his share.
I suspect that if you had more money in taxable accounts, you would have beeb disturbed by the taxes you were paying on dividends/distributions, as while earning a salary you were not in a position to benefit from paying 0% on qualified dividends/cap gains. And taxable distributions might even have pushed you into paying AMT.
The absolute best way to avoid paying taxes, is to not make the money in the first place. I don't get the impression you are interested in that approach. Or I guess it's too late for you to have that option LOL!
Maybe when RMD time comes around you can send money from your IRAs directly to a charity [I'm hoping it's still an option in the future] and thus save a bundle on your taxes.
You are retired, and in the 25% tax bracket. That means you are doing very well indeed for a retiree.
IMO you should get over your frustration with paying taxes, and just accept that paying taxes means you are making (or have made) money. So it's not ALL bad.
And in the RMD years, you might even have medical expenses that lower the taxes you end up paying on your income and SS. Wait - that doesn't sound like a wonderful way to save on taxes - but you would save on taxes.
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