Portal Forums Links Register FAQ Community Calendar Log in

Join Early Retirement Today
View Poll Results: Poll: How happy are you in your ER stage?
0-2 years into ER, happier than expected 30 18.29%
3-5 years into ER, happier than expected 20 12.20%
6+ years into ER, happier than expected 32 19.51%
0-2 years into ER, neither happier nor less happy than expected 42 25.61%
3-5 years into ER, neither happier nor less happy than expected 18 10.98%
6+ years into ER, neither happier nor less happy than expected 12 7.32%
0-2 years into ER, less happy than expected 7 4.27%
3-5 years into ER, less happy than expected 1 0.61%
6+ years into ER, less happy than expected 2 1.22%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Poll: How happy are you in your ER stage?
Old 10-27-2014, 10:20 AM   #1
Full time employment: Posting here.
Focus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 640
Poll: How happy are you in your ER stage?

This poll is spun off from my previous thread. To recap, in the book "The Retirement Maze" there's a chapter on early retirement in which they compared retirees between 45 and 59 to those who retired around 65.

The authors found that early retirees start off well, with "a positive mind-set" and "excited about the prospect of pursuing new interests."

But, they say, things tended to go south after two years for early retirees, who "become disenchanted, showing less and less enjoyment as they progress deeper into their retirement." 74% of early retirees are happy in their first two years, but only 54% are after six or more years. They point to changes in marriage dynamics, lack of social connectedness, and a declining interest in activities.

The researchers found the numbers were pulled down by unhappy retirees -- i.e., those who retired early involuntarily and those who defined themselves by their job role. I suspect many here likely fall into the happy category . This poll will help clarify.
__________________
-
"Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants."
--Epictetus
Focus is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 10-27-2014, 10:23 AM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Gotadimple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,613
Good intro! Needs a poll tho'

(I'm ready to vote).

-- Rita
__________________
Only got A dimple, would have preferred 2!
Gotadimple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 10:25 AM   #3
Administrator
MichaelB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 40,726
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotadimple View Post
Good intro! Needs a poll tho'

(I'm ready to vote).

-- Rita
Polls take a few minutes to load after the original post appears.
MichaelB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 10:51 AM   #4
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
David1961's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,085
In my opinion, having realistic expectations is the key. If you suddenly expect all of your problems to go away after ER, you are setting yourself up.
David1961 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 11:01 AM   #5
Moderator Emeritus
W2R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 47,501
I knew I would be happy, but I didn't know I would be THIS happy. With a booming market, few hurricanes, relatively good health, and so much fun to be had, life is pretty good. Retirement just seems better and better to me, the longer I am retired.
__________________
Already we are boldly launched upon the deep; but soon we shall be lost in its unshored, harbourless immensities. - - H. Melville, 1851.

Happily retired since 2009, at age 61. Best years of my life by far!
W2R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 11:09 AM   #6
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pittsburgh, PA suburbs
Posts: 1,796
Retired only a few months and happier than I expected. I enjoy not being on a schedule and not feeling overwhelmed with assignments (office had become very short staffed and duties were increased with no paid overtime permitted and as a union employee I could not take compensatory time). I understand from former co-workers it has only gotten worse and they are chomping at the bit to retire or move to other units asap.
WhoDaresWins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 11:26 AM   #7
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 7,968


ER Jan 1993, age 49 1/2 via lay-off.

A little chewy at first until I let go of my 'unemployed slacker personna' and embraced this forum/the concept of ER.

A few bumps - overly aggressive on frugal early on, Katrina wiped out the no flood insurance camp(house over water), girlfriend of 29 yrs passed away, and of course Mr Markets thrills and chills.

Relocated 1000 miles inland on a hill.

Married at age 70 and relocated to Paradise - Kansas City.

heh heh heh - new wife may have altered my attitude a tad.
unclemick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 11:36 AM   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,901
I am in my 5th year of ER and I am still enjoying it very much. For me, ER is the ultimate luxury, one I hope I can continue to afford 'til my last breath.
FIREd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 12:07 PM   #9
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Gotadimple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,613
Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R View Post
I knew I would be happy, but I didn't know I would be THIS happy. With a booming market, few hurricanes, relatively good health, and so much fun to be had, life is pretty good. Retirement just seems better and better to me, the longer I am retired.
+1000 Who knew goofing off could be this much fun!
__________________
Only got A dimple, would have preferred 2!
Gotadimple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 01:23 PM   #10
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,698
This Friday will mark my 6th year of ER and it has been just as good as I expected it will be. I was working only 2 days a week at the time so it wasn't a big change from that. But going from 2 days a week to zero days a week was a wonderful thing and remains that way! )
__________________
Retired in late 2008 at age 45. Cashed in company stock, bought a lot of shares in a big bond fund and am living nicely off its dividends. IRA, SS, and a pension await me at age 60 and later. No kids, no debts.

"I want my money working for me instead of me working for my money!"
scrabbler1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 01:31 PM   #11
Moderator
rodi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,212
I'm in the 0-2 years, about what I expected, category.

I expected to enjoy free time and lack of office bs... And that's been true. It's all good. But I expected it to be all good.
__________________
Retired June 2014. No longer an enginerd - now I'm just a nerd.
micro pensions 6%, rental income 20%
rodi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 01:32 PM   #12
Moderator
Walt34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern WV Panhandle
Posts: 25,346
I was just thinking about this the other day. I'm a little bit happier than I thought I'd be but not significantly so.
__________________
When I was a kid I wanted to be older. This is not what I expected.
Walt34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 02:27 PM   #13
Full time employment: Posting here.
CaliforniaMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 880
Finishing my 7th month of retirement now, so far zero downside. Having been in the work mode for so long, and for the most part finding my work enjoyable, thought I might have some misgivings about feeling left out of what was happening. None of that at all, just feelings of relief that I am out of that particular race. Occasionally I have some ideas I want to tell them about, but then my better judgement kicks in and I realize: what if they really asked me to do it? Enjoying my freedom and looking forward to my new non-remunerative projects.
__________________
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Life is but a dream.
CaliforniaMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 02:36 PM   #14
Recycles dryer sheets
Sea Kayaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vancouver/Gulf Islands/Baja
Posts: 479
In my travels about town (walking, always walking, because I now have the time to do so), a stupid grin is always threatening to bust out on my face. Seriously, this morning as I sweated it out at the gym, a joyous smile came out of nowhere - accompanied by the thought "This is way better than work!"... and yes, my job was pretty awful.

In my interactions with people, especially those of my own age, I consciously down play how great ER is. But on this site in particular, I really hold nothing back. ER is SPECTACULAR (so far, and its early).
__________________
Retired at 42... the world is my oyster, and I am now in the process of shucking the hell out of it.
Sea Kayaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 03:48 PM   #15
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 456
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoDaresWins View Post
Retired only a few months and happier than I expected. I enjoy not being on a schedule and not feeling overwhelmed with assignments (office had become very short staffed and duties were increased with no paid overtime permitted and as a union employee I could not take compensatory time). I understand from former co-workers it has only gotten worse and they are chomping at the bit to retire or move to other units asap.

Same here. Ten months into a last minute, rushed ER (it was a couple of years ahead of my plans). Things were a little rocky the first few months, because I thought I had ER'd too early and my departure wasn't in accordance with my original plans.

But, I can say unequivocally that this is one of the BEST things that's ever happen to me! No stress, traffic, deadlines and all of the other problems associated with work. The only time I worry is when I have nightmares about being back at work. Luckily I wake up, hit the gym and jacuzzi, come back home for breakfast and then begin to enjoy another beautiful ER day. I don't know what I did to deserve this blessing, but I sure am grateful!!!


Sent from my iPad using Early Retirement Forum
PERSonalTime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 04:02 PM   #16
Moderator
MBAustin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,945
It's wonderful, and a bit better than I expected, mostly because I thought I would get bored after a year or so and thus planned to do some significant consulting. Never got bored and so never got around to doing the marketing/networking necessary to build up the consulting practice. I did one gig last year and, while I enjoyed it, I found it took too much time away from being retired
__________________
"One of the funny things about the stock market is that every time one person buys, another sells, and both think they are astute." William Feather
----------------------------------
ER'd Oct. 2010 at 53. Life is good.
MBAustin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 04:31 PM   #17
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Utrecht
Posts: 2,650
Can one of the two people that voted "'less happy than expected" so far elaborate?

Curious.
Totoro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 05:02 PM   #18
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 969
Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro View Post
Can one of the two people that voted "'less happy than expected" so far elaborate?

Curious.
I almost voted that same 0-2 years into ER, less happy than expected but did not vote at all because I am not sure my situation exactly matches the spirit of this poll: I am not ER year. So, technically, I think that makes me 0 years into my ER. But, as I said, I do not think that was what OP had in mind.

Through some good luck and frugal ways, I now have enough invested assets to give me a conservative 2.5% SWR. (Planned budget based on worst likely case tax estimates, higher than current standard of living, high health care premiums, etc.) So, I believe that I am FI. However, I am not ER, continuing to suffer from OMY syndrome.

While I am definitely more relaxed than I was a few years ago, it is not what I was expecting.
  • If I try to work hard enough to justify my current salary (to myself), I am exhausted, stressed, etc.
  • When I start slacking off, even a bit, I feel like I am cheating those around me.
  • The fear of not really being FI and very low probability of ever commanding compensation anywhere close to current levels keeps me on the job.
Basically, I feel a bit like I am in limbo at the moment which is not at all what I expected for this stage: FI but doing OMY for added cushion. I expected to be enjoying this phase much more than I actually am.

Some of my fears keeping me in OMY mode and likely contributing to me being less happy than expected at this point in my life:
  • Is a 2.5% SWR really that conservative given my relatively young age and good health?
  • Possibility of needing to support my mother at some point. (Eighties, lives very frugally but has no significant investments. Currently good health.)
  • Will the markets really continue to provide a real return; or, have things actually changed now?
Please note: I am not particularly unhappy; I just expected to be much happier.
__________________
If there's one thing in my life that's missing; It's the time I spend alone
Sailing on the cool and bright clear waters; There's lots of those friendly people
Showin me ways to go; And I never want to lose your inspiration
CoolChange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 08:17 PM   #19
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
martyb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bossier City
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodi View Post
I'm in the 0-2 years, about what I expected, category.

I expected to enjoy free time and lack of office bs... And that's been true. It's all good. But I expected it to be all good.
Pretty much sums it up for me, too.
__________________
“Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.”
-John F. Kennedy

“Hard work never killed anybody, but why take a chance?” - Edgar Bergen
martyb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2014, 08:27 PM   #20
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fair Lawn
Posts: 2,963
I voted happier than expected, notwithstanding I had great expectations to begin with!
1 1/2 years in, and the novelty has yet to wear off.
mystang52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Happy Birthday to my little buddy..and Happy St. Patty's day to the rest of you! thefed Other topics 18 03-18-2010 04:15 AM
Entered Another Stage in Life MikeD Life after FIRE 25 04-16-2008 12:03 PM
Stock Market -- What stage of the business cycle and what is in demand? chinaco FIRE and Money 5 05-19-2007 07:17 PM
Got to sit on stage at last nights "Praire Home Companion" show................. Cut-Throat Life after FIRE 4 04-18-2007 02:52 PM
Question about health insurance at the Medicare stage whitestick Health and Early Retirement 16 03-19-2007 06:10 PM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:34 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.