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Old 06-11-2012, 09:13 AM   #21
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IMO if you can't afford to have two homes then it's easier to tolerate extreme heat than extreme cold so I agree with the list.
Different strokes, I guess. When it's really cold you can add more layers and bundle up to get warm. In a Southern summer you can't get comfortable in *any* way other than to stay inside with the AC blasting constantly and hibernate from May to mid-October. You can't go around town naked, and even if you could you'd still be miserably hot.
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You can't go around town naked, and even if you could you'd still be miserably hot.
If we get too many Californians moving here, that could change. At least those from SF.
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In the future those "best places to retire" lists will include only locations 1,000 ft or more above sea level....
I'd go for that.
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The Alabama description takes note of Fairhope, a neat city flying under most folks radar. We discovered it in 04 and decided that was the place for us. Then enter Katrina..While not directly affecting Fairhope, the area seemed to become a magnet for Katrina survivors. The house we had our eye on jumped 50K over night, then after that they took their own hurricane hit.
That did it..So long Fairhope.
Ms G and I were considering Ocean Springs MS, before Katrina. We were surprised it was still on the map!

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The town has a reputation as an "arts community." Its historic and secluded downtown area, with streets lined by live oak trees, is home to several art galleries and shops. It is also home to a number of ethnic restaurants relatively uncommon in surrounding communities.
Ocean Springs was the hometown of the late Walter Inglis Anderson, a nationally renowned painter and muralist who died in 1965 from lung cancer. The town plays host to several festivals, including its Peter Anderson Festival and The Herb Festival.
Ocean Springs was severely damaged on August 29, 2005, by Hurricane Katrina, which destroyed many buildings along the shoreline, including the Ocean Springs Yacht Club, and the historic wooden Fort Maurepas, and gutted or flooded other buildings. Katrina's 25 ft (7.6 m) storm surge also destroyed the Biloxi Bay Bridge, which connected Biloxi to Ocean Springs.
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With global warming, what will these lists look like in another 20 years?
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I've been noticing that tornados and hail storms seem to be shifting both north and east. Hopefully north texas will be safe, although Houston may be under water
Hawaii has earned a well-deserved reputation for some of the nation's most miserable paved streets. The local traffic engineers shrug their shoulders and blame it on the high water table and the occasional torrential rain. (They can't blame it on freezing & thawing!) They're always searching for the miracle paving material to stave off potholes and caved-in shoulders.

Then we started driving Houston's streets. As far as I can tell, it's the only American city whose paving is in worse condition than Hawaii's streets... another problem caused by high water tables and shifting soil.
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I have to admit that the area just north of the Smokeys (TN) was very comfortable in the summer, and very beautiful.
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I have to admit that the area just north of the Smokeys (TN) was very comfortable in the summer, and very beautiful.
Similar to one of my favorite areas, and a city that often makes these lists: Asheville NC.
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Different strokes, I guess. When it's really cold you can add more layers and bundle up to get warm. In a Southern summer you can't get comfortable in *any* way other than to stay inside with the AC blasting constantly and hibernate from May to mid-October. You can't go around town naked, and even if you could you'd still be miserably hot.
Don't you find it odd that someone who hates cold weather(me) lives in one of the coldest areas in the country and someone who hates hot weather(you) lives in one of the hottest?
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I have to admit that the area just north of the Smokeys (TN) was very comfortable in the summer, and very beautiful.
Like Gatlinburg area?
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In the future those "best places to retire" lists will include only locations 1,000 ft or more above sea level....
Had a surveyor measure our retirement property. It is 7842.104 above the current sea level.
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Like Gatlinburg area?
We spent several pleasant weeks in Townsend TN. But yes, it's in the same general area. Gatlinburg itself is a bit crazy/busy/touristy.
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Different strokes, I guess. When it's really cold you can add more layers and bundle up to get warm. In a Southern summer you can't get comfortable in *any* way other than to stay inside with the AC blasting constantly and hibernate from May to mid-October. You can't go around town naked, and even if you could you'd still be miserably hot.
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DW/me have lived in the same area for the last 6+ decades but have lived (me) in Texas for 18 months and (both) in Florida for 18 months, outside the area in which we were born/raised (about 90m west of NYC).

Year round warm weather is not for us. We like the four seasons and the change that each brings, both in foliage and weather. Yes, we even enjoy the snow and the cold nights and crisp mornings that most winter days bring.

Anyway, you can't normally both snow and water ski in the south ...

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I've been noticing that tornados and hail storms seem to be shifting both north and east. Hopefully north texas will be safe, although Houston may be under water
Oklahoma = severe weather magnet..
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Several of those choices are right in the tornado belt (Oklahoma to be the number 1)...
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The Alabama description takes note of Fairhope, a neat city flying under most folks radar. We discovered it in 04 and decided that was the place for us. Then enter Katrina..While not directly affecting Fairhope, the area seemed to become a magnet for Katrina survivors. The house we had our eye on jumped 50K over night, then after that they took their own hurricane hit.
That did it..So long Fairhope.

Fairhope was at the top of my list before Katrina, too. Katrina changed everything.

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Don't you find it odd that someone who hates cold weather(me) lives in one of the coldest areas in the country and someone who hates hot weather(you) lives in one of the hottest?
It must be human nature to see only(or more clearly) the disadvantages of where we are, and not the disadvantages of other places where we might live. When we were looking for a potential retirement location, we were looking for low crime and no hurricanes. But what disadvantages is New Orleans known for? high crime and hurricanes.

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Had a surveyor measure our retirement property. It is 7842.104 above the current sea level.
Wow! That's really high. I am at -2.4 feet, and most of my suburb is at -3.6 feet.
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Meanwhile, the most bikeable cities (Grab your bike and head for Minneapolis - chicagotribune.com) are mostly in cold winter states but none in the above best states for retirement:

I was biking around one of the town lakes in MSP today. Absolutely glorious. More to do here than at our other boring home in AZ.
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except in Virginia, "rising sea level" is illegal so no worries.
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For now WV fits the bill for us. A mixture of weather, no earthquakes, tornadoes/hurricanes are rare and those are mild by other standards and short-lived. Not too crowded or desolate. Proximity to family is important.

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