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Old 07-19-2015, 10:26 AM   #21
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And then there's this:

The Earthquake That Will Devastate Seattle - The New Yorker
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Yikes!

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Counting from the earthquake of 1700, we are now three hundred and fifteen years into a two-hundred-and-forty-three-year cycle.
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“Our operating assumption is that everything west of Interstate 5 will be toast.”
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Thanks for the link. The article is fascinating and sobering. Here are 2 quotes which I found especially interesting:

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Every fault line has an upper limit to its potency, determined by its length and width, and by how far it can slip. For the San Andreas, one of the most extensively studied and best understood fault lines in the world, that upper limit is roughly an 8.2—a powerful earthquake, but, because the Richter scale is logarithmic, only six per cent as strong as the 2011 event in Japan.
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If, on that occasion, only the southern part of the Cascadia subduction zone gives way—your first two fingers, say—the magnitude of the resulting quake will be somewhere between 8.0 and 8.6. Thats the big one. If the entire zone gives way at once, an event that seismologists call a full-margin rupture, the magnitude will be somewhere between 8.7 and 9.2. That’s the very big one.
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Yeah, always something to worry about living on the ring of fire. St Helens and other napping but larger volcanoes, potential lahars that could be 50 miles longer than the recent Oso slide. East of here last summer was a 256,000 acre wildfire that was only stopped on it's southbound excursion by the Columbia river. Dangerous place.
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East of Seattle layers of ocean sand are found underground many miles inland. I wonder if huge companies like Microsoft have considered moving HQs elsewhere.
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I loved funky Monte Rio in the redwoods.
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Are you sure that you want to leave your current home? At least you know what you have there.

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What? Gangs? Graffiti? Traffic? Sprawl? Crime (as in murders) that didn't exist in the East Bay as recently as 30 years ago?
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My mom's cousins lived around Sebastepol and Occidental. The area between Sebastepol and Bodega Bay has everything from orchards to homes in the redwoods, to the Pacific Ocean, yet you're close to Santa Rosa, a city of about a million people. It might be less expensive than Healdburg, a tourist destination, which is only a few miles away. Check out the roads in the hills just west of Occidental. I had family that lived there for most of my life (until 5 years ago) and every visit felt like a resort vacation.

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Anyone have any ideas as to a smaller coastal-ish town we might consider that maybe just hasn't popped up on our radar?

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Lots of great suggestions on the thread. We live in the Monte Rio area and it's kind of perfect for us - 5 miles from the ocean, only 25 miles from Santa Rosa, and just 1 1/2 hours to SanFran. There are a lot of quirky little places up here. Take a drive and check them out. We think it's paradise.
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If you consider south, like SLO, you could look into Morro Bay or Cayucos, or Los Osos. All by SLO and on the coast. Whereas SLO is 20 miles inland. Further north up hwy 1 is Cambria, but that is about the end of general cities along the coast. South of SLO you have the 5 cities area (Pismo Beach, Arroyo Grande, Oceano and I forget the others) that is also pretty close to the water.

I wen to college in SLO, different now then back in 80's, but it was a nice area then. The coastal towns I mentioned above are smaller, and might help you funds go farther. Or slightly north and inland from SLO you have Atascadero and Paso Robles. Not sure if they will help your funds go any further. Also they are not really on the water, being separated by small coastal mountain range.
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Just buy a smaller house in the east bay. It's got to be cheaper than your bigger house.
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I love the Jenner and Gualala area of the coast. It feels so rural and still on the coast. You don't see to much of that in CA! I'm going there for a week in August to beat the inland heat and get my seafood fix
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Our house is just around 3000 ft sq and we'd like to get to around 1800 feet or smaller with smaller front and back yards... and pocket the difference.

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Would you be eligible to transfer your property tax assessment (if it's lower)?

I found the Inverness area near Point Reyes to be nice, but YMMV.
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+1. This big discontinuities in retirement are a lot to handle, and on the not unlikely chance that you are not pleased by the new circumstances, you are essentially out of luck unless you have way more money than you need.

Regarding tectonic movements in the NE pacific, these were not even understood or even suspected when I came up here. Everything west of I-5 toast? In the ~60 years I've lived on the west coast, all but 50 have been lived west of I-5. Other than now, when I live on one of the hills east of I-5 and a 15 minute walk away, a grand total of 2 years were spent E of I-5.

It sounds like whenever this happens, many cities and towns in the NW will be destroyed, and one wonders if they could recover. Around 1970 I met a guy who had experienced the 9.2
quake near Anchorage in 1964. He was strongly impressed! The most disruptive quakes I have personally experienced were the 6.5 San Fernando Valley quake of 1971 and the Nisqually quake (6.8) of 2001. People were moving from LA as soon as they could get trucks for a considerable time after that. It also coincided with an aerospace recession. And, a 6.5 is a whole different fish from a 9.

Personally, although Seattle suits me to a tee, if one of my son's family and life were not here, I might try to talk girlfriend into decamping. Where to? Maybe Spokane, maybe Reno or Las Vegas, maybe Missoula or Billings. The other plan, let fate decide. One of my favorite writers is the late Walker Percy from Covington, LA. Using southern Louisiana hurricanes he shows that the effects of huge public disasters are not always negative for those who are caught in them, even if they perish. But even if I managed to get her to leave with me, then I to some extent become responsible for her happiness, which might be a bit much.

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Would you be eligible to transfer your property tax assessment (if it's lower)?



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There are only a few counties that permit this transfer via Prop 90:

Alameda, Orange, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Ventura, LA, San Diego, El Dorado, and Riverside, the last time I checked.
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I love the Jenner and Gualala area of the coast. It feels so rural and still on the coast. You don't see to much of that in CA! I'm going there for a week in August to beat the inland heat and get my seafood fix
There's a reason for that...

While you are there, figure out the drive time to the nearest major medical facility. Check out where the nearest E-R is. (RCMS is open 8-6 Mon-Fri, excluding holidays. That's it for Gualala/Point Arena.)

Check into where the nearest major shopping centers are. "The Sea Trader" doesn't count, and you might get tired of The Surf Market after a while.

A week is one thing. Living there full time gets interesting...

(I was in Fort Bragg for a while, about 1 1/2 hours north on a good day, and the largest town on that stretch of coastline. That got strange, especially when the emergency room was replaced with a helicopter shuttle for a while. ($65/year per household for AirMedCare Network membership, or pay as you go. And pay, and pay some more...)
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There's a reason for that...

While you are there, figure out the drive time to the nearest major medical facility. Check out where the nearest E-R is. (RCMS is open 8-6 Mon-Fri, excluding holidays. That's it for Gualala/Point Arena.)

Check into where the nearest major shopping centers are. "The Sea Trader" doesn't count, and you might get tired of The Surf Market after a while.

A week is one thing. Living there full time gets interesting...

(I was in Fort Bragg for a while, about 1 1/2 hours north on a good day, and the largest town on that stretch of coastline. That got strange, especially when the emergency room was replaced with a helicopter shuttle for a while. ($65/year per household for AirMedCare Network membership, or pay as you go. And pay, and pay some more...)

Details - details, sheesh... . Did not really think about the medical care, that could be a real issue. As far as stores it would have to be bi-weekly or monthly trips to Bodega or sebastapol and stock up.
Last time up there in March I went around one of the MANY sharp turns on the coast and almost hit a huge cow standing in the middle of the road. Cars don't even faze/interest them! I'll drive slower, do not want have to pay for a helo trip for me or God forbid a cow.
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Details - details, sheesh... . Did not really think about the medical care, that could be a real issue. As far as stores it would have to be bi-weekly or monthly trips to Bodega or sebastapol and stock up.
Last time up there in March I went around one of the MANY sharp turns on the coast and almost hit a huge cow standing in the middle of the road. Cars don't even faze/interest them! I'll drive slower, do not want have to pay for a helo trip for me or God forbid a cow.
FYI, from the Fort Bragg area, the drive to Ukiah is tolerable, and they will soon have a Costco, and already have most everything else you might need (Walmart, Home Depot, etc.).
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My Favorite No. Cal. Spot

Ferndale and the "Lost Coast." Though this may be too far away from the amenities you need, Ferndale has a lot of charm. And, if you head west on the sole road to the coast, you end up winding down to an enormous, isolated beach of black sand. It's called "the Lost Coast" because CalTrans could not build a coastal highway through that mountainous area.

DH and I used to love going up there for the weekend. There was never anyone on that beach.......unless you count the cows who sometimes took over the road. That same road winds back through the little village of Petrolia, then back into the state redwood forest.

We always dreamed of moving there, but his job transfer brought us to OH......which worked out well too.

(Whenever friends or family ask for No. Cal. recs of places to visit, we send them to Ferndale and the Lost Coast. They come back with enthusiastic reports. Several of my students went there on a high school graduation trip, and made a movie of themselves performing a medieval sword fight on the beach, with the waves crashing behind them. The only other creatures in the movie were the cows.)

There are almost no houses on that drive. Perhaps a rancher would be willing to sell a couple acres?

Best of luck. I would be envious of anybody who was able to move there.

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