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06-03-2008, 11:33 PM
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bum, i also feel that my area has dipped below where it should be. but that remains hard to judge until credit loosens up so buyers can purchase again.
happens i'm just back from another roadtrip to daytona beach and tampa where i checked out the heights and stopped for lunch in ybor city. i think rich is right, that this area will not come into its own until the next boom which i'd give more than 10 years. maybe 15 to 20. while there is huge potential, there's also an awful lot of work to be done there. so while i could certainly get in early, by the time it pays off i'll be in my 70s and won't care. photogram detailing pricing to follow in separate threads on tampa and later one on daytona.
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06-04-2008, 07:17 AM
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Gone but not forgotten
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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa
I think that's accurate. But then, it's also perennially on the brink of respectability, has some great residential architecture, and has already seen the arrival of substantial numbers of artsy folks, a thriving if small gay community, and upscale restaurants all of which are harbingers of good things in many cities. To its north is Tampa Heights, and beyond that Seminole Heights - both up and coming, some on the river, etc.
Yes, caveat emptor, and probably a safer bet for those with a 10 year horizon. It's the ones who get in early and smart who will eventually make out well.
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Thanks for the updates . It has been a few years since I've been there . Maybe we'll take a ride . I love the architecture of the Columbia restaurant there.
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06-04-2008, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Moemg
Thanks for the updates . It has been a few years since I've been there . Maybe we'll take a ride . I love the architecture of the Columbia restaurant there.
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If you do, PM me and we can meet up for brunch, lunch, whatever. There's a nice creperie type place we can show you.
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06-04-2008, 09:28 AM
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it's closed on monday's. i was sooo upset.
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06-04-2008, 10:25 AM
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Haven't been to Sarasota in 30 years, but it scared the s#!t out of me for the barely-contained ambient racial animosity: horrible, violent threats and shouting matches erupting out of nowhere from a blue sky. Never seen anything like it either before or since (even in the "Deep South," which I'm told Florida is not). I assume it has improved since then?
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06-04-2008, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bpp3
Haven't been to Sarasota in 30 years, but it scared the s#!t out of me for the barely-contained ambient racial animosity: horrible, violent threats and shouting matches erupting out of nowhere from a blue sky. Never seen anything like it either before or since (even in the "Deep South," which I'm told Florida is not). I assume it has improved since then?
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I've lived in Sarasota County for ten years and while it is a far cry from the ultra liberal attitude I was used to I haven't witnessed any vilent threats or shouting matches .
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06-04-2008, 12:47 PM
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it's everywhere. a neighbor of mine commented just the other day on our upcoming new (his words) "n word" president. he doesn't want another four years of bush but he is afraid that a black president will give, in his words, the "n-words too much to celebrate".
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"life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901
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06-04-2008, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bpp3
Haven't been to Sarasota in 30 years, but it scared the s#!t out of me for the barely-contained ambient racial animosity: horrible, violent threats and shouting matches erupting out of nowhere from a blue sky. Never seen anything like it either before or since (even in the "Deep South," which I'm told Florida is not). I assume it has improved since then?
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It's not possible to speak of Sarasota County as a monolithic entity. There are slums, farmland, beaches, lily-white gated communities, etc.
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06-04-2008, 05:53 PM
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Moemg and Rich are both right. Lazy already clued me on Ybor as a long bet. I streeview walked through the entire place, and the area north of the expressway is kind of iffy.
The things Rich mentioned are leading indicators of an area under revival. I have seen it in Philly's Manuyunk. Fifteen years ago, nobody would dare walk through that place, but the artsy types saw the old industrial buildings as cheap lofts, then small galleries opened, and then restaurants. Urban yuppies such as myself finally "discovered" the place. Now the only crime you have to commit is beating some existing resident silly so that you can get a place.
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