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Old 01-16-2012, 03:23 PM   #61
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Haven't you noticed? People like and get along with everyone, except their siblings of course.

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Hope you didn't get that from my post. In most places I don't get along with everyone, but in most places I can find people I do get along with. Not counting family, that is.

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I am only looking for a place to land that I can afford and nobody shoots at me. That rules out many parts of the Home of the Rich and the Land of the Slave.
Sorry Gypsy Ed, but the "no shooting at ya'" kind of disqualifies Venezuela and most of Latin America. Maybe it'll get better someday.
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I didn't read the article, but have read many like it, and Maine usually ranks up there with states to avoid because of the high taxes. Never-the-less, it was always on my short-list as well, and I still check property for sale on at least a weekly basis (there is still affordable waterfront property if you go far enough north), and it probably among the most beautiful places I have ever been.
I lived in Maine for 3 years due to my job. I would go back there to live for good. Of course, I live in Vermont now, so I wouldn't see a great weather advantage!

To me, it's all about where you feel comfortable with the environment and the local people. I've lived in a couple of Southern states (VA and FL) and although I have good memories of both, I wouldn't really want to live in either forever. I also lived in MD which some people consider a Southern state and others consider Northern. I could live there forever, but that's as far south as I would personally want to go.

Others feel differently; I understand and respect that but probably wouldn't want to live outside of New England or the Mid-Atlantic (North of DC) regardless of the tax situation.
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Sorry Gypsy Ed, but the "no shooting at ya'" kind of disqualifies Venezuela and most of Latin America. Maybe it'll get better someday.
Hmm. I have been discovering that. Most is not all, though. Any suggestions?
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Hmm. I have been discovering that. Most is not all, though. Any suggestions?
Well, the northernmost tip of Latin America - Broward County Fl - seems pretty safe, although as you approach Miami that is not the case. Further south, it looks like you need to be in the Southern Cone area of Chile / Argentina before things settle down, but that is quite a trip. Panama, perhaps. The combination of safe, secure and low cost of living is becoming more elusive.
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FWIW, I would also suggest southern Brazil -- Porto Alegre if you like bigger cities, or São José dos Campos if you like smaller ones.
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We drew a line across the country along the Mason-Dixon line. Nothing north, too much cold and snow. Drew another line down the Mississippi River. Nothing west, too far from family. The far south, too hot and humid. Settled on North or South Carolina. Found the Upstate of South Carolina. Tucked into the foothills of the Blue Ridge. Great climate, seasons, wild areas, and the beach is an easy drive. Taxes and cost of living are great. (Although anything compared to Chicago area would most likely be great.) Here we are living happily ever after.
My uncle lives outside Greenville, SC, at about 1900 feet. What a great place!
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My uncle lives outside Greenville, SC, at about 1900 feet. What a great place!
That was one of my choices too. My "retirement plan" was to put the snow thrower in the back of the pickup truck and drive south until people started asking what that machine was for. DW didn't want to go that far from family and she would have been miserable.

There is hope though. Her closest sister is talking about moving to either NC or SC and DW knows that it would take about a half ounce of arm-twisting pressure to get me to move there.
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My "retirement plan" was to put the snow thrower in the back of the pickup truck and drive south until people started asking what that machine was for.
Funny you should say that. As we were unloading the moving van into our new home in upstate South Carolina from Chicago, I told the young kid helping, we sold our snow blower and came south. He responded, "What's a snow blower for?"

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Well, the northernmost tip of Latin America - Broward County Fl - seems pretty safe, although as you approach Miami that is not the case. Further south, it looks like you need to be in the Southern Cone area of Chile / Argentina before things settle down, but that is quite a trip. Panama, perhaps. The combination of safe, secure and low cost of living is becoming more elusive.
We lived in Lakeland for a while. I did not care for Miami either. Might take another look, if DW agrees.
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We lived in Lakeland for a while. I did not care for Miami either. Might take another look, if DW agrees.
What for? I would take Braumeister's recommendation over Miami

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There are so many factors that make a retirement place "good" or "bad" for retirees (or anyone). Each of us has his own criteria from weather to terrain to diversity to COL, to taxes, to state-fiscal-situation, etc. etc. While there are states which are either more or less "friendly" to retirees, I think the great equalizer is whether one can afford to live in a certain area that one prefers for ALL personal reasons. At that point, the state-friendliness (or lack of it) becomes somewhat irrelevant. Case in point for me is my personal choice of where to live in retirement. Hawaii does actually (still) have quite a few retiree-friendly tax deductions. Yet, it is one of the most costly states for anyone (retiree or w*rking). But, once we calculated that we could afford to live here, we moved because we COULD and because we WANTED to - not specifically because the state was "friendly" to retirees. That was only a small piece of the puzzle. So far, at least, we are willing to pay the price to live in Paradise. YMMV
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There are so many factors that make a retirement place "good" or "bad" for retirees (or anyone). Each of us has his own criteria from weather to terrain to diversity to COL, to taxes, to state-fiscal-situation, etc. etc. While there are states which are either more or less "friendly" to retirees, I think the great equalizer is whether one can afford to live in a certain area that one prefers for ALL personal reasons. At that point, the state-friendliness (or lack of it) becomes somewhat irrelevant. Case in point for me is my personal choice of where to live in retirement. Hawaii does actually (still) have quite a few retiree-friendly tax deductions. Yet, it is one of the most costly states for anyone (retiree or w*rking). But, once we calculated that we could afford to live here, we moved because we COULD and because we WANTED to - not specifically because the state was "friendly" to retirees. That was only a small piece of the puzzle. So far, at least, we are willing to pay the price to live in Paradise. YMMV
That is definitely true, especially the "wanted" part. There always seems to be poor people in paradise, surviving too! After traveling to St. John USVI several times, I have given serious thought to living there. Good housing to buy is out of my range, but you can definitely rent nice affordable places on the Coral Bay side reasonable for island standards (St. Thomas, no thank you). The trouble for me is by the time my GF is ready to retire ( and she would love to go there for a few years, too) health considerations may come in. Not the best place to have a medical emergency considering there is no hospital on the island, and the "ambulance service bill" to STT would finish me off if I wasnt dead already. We wont rule it out, though. No state income tax would help a lot considering I have nice taxable pension.
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