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Old 10-14-2013, 02:07 PM   #241
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And my next class project - my homemade wheat ale

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And my next class project - my homemade wheat ale
I really like that one. I think the stark black background really sets off the textures in the wood and the grain and pretzels. And I like that all the tones are browns, that might be boring in some pics, but here I think it really works well. The lighting seems perfect to me, and that's tough with glass reflections and everything else going on. How did you light that?

A couple things that I think might make it even better (though I could be wrong, I guess I'd have to see the changes - and of course it's just my subjective view) - maybe there could be a little more area above the glass? It feels a little closed in to me. And since I'm a beer guy too, when I think of a wheat beer, I generally think of a lot of creamy, white head on it. So maybe the glass could be filled a little lower, and with more foam?

Certainly minor details, a really great shot, IMO. I'll be curious what your instructor has to say.

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So here's a fun little thing I played with. The "Palace of the Arts" building in Budapest is a modern hall (we saw/heard the Vienna Symphony there, with the talented and beautiful pianist Alice Sara Ott) - an interesting building and I could not get it all in one shot. I thought about trying to capture enough of it and try a stitching program, but no tripod, and I never tried stitching before, so this was a shot in the dark for me (dusk actually - so my handheld shots are not in great focus).

So the first sample is the three photos roughly placed in one frame to show the 'before'. I downloaded a free open source panoramic stitching program, and I was overwhelmed at all the options. So I just hit "go" with the defaults, figuring I'd get garbage, but a few minutes later the results shocked me, I couldn't believe how well it did.

Upon closer examination, I saw it did a kind of Escher thing on the stairs. It's like the program did its own bit of artistic interpretation.

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Handheld shots can be stitched together in a pinch.
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I really like that one. I think the stark black background really sets off the textures in the wood and the grain and pretzels. And I like that all the tones are browns, that might be boring in some pics, but here I think it really works well. The lighting seems perfect to me, and that's tough with glass reflections and everything else going on. How did you light that?

A couple things that I think might make it even better (though I could be wrong, I guess I'd have to see the changes - and of course it's just my subjective view) - maybe there could be a little more area above the glass? It feels a little closed in to me. And since I'm a beer guy too, when I think of a wheat beer, I generally think of a lot of creamy, white head on it. So maybe the glass could be filled a little lower, and with more foam?

Certainly minor details, a really great shot, IMO. I'll be curious what your instructor has to say.

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Thanks for the critique! Heres a photo of my setup. Work lights with natural light bulbs from 2 sides and top through a bankers box with tracing paper "windows" in the sides and top. Black foam board lines the back.

I see you caught the closed in feel. I got that too. I think the problem stems from the bankers box being too small and the largest tracing paper I could find was 11 x14. I need a bigger setup so that I can get more light behind the beer to create a thin line of light down each side. I also need to work on the beer head. That beer had been sitting a while during setup and I stirred to get as much head as I could. Plus I've been keeping my CO2 PSI low because I have a stout in my 2nd keg. I'm going to make a bigger light box. Next time I'll have everything ready before I tap the beer. I read that the pros put glycerin on their glasses to retain the wet look. I did that, but I think I put too much glycerin on it. I'll report in with my teacher's thoughts.

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I really like that one. I think the stark black background really sets off the textures in the wood and the grain and pretzels. And I like that all the tones are browns, that might be boring in some pics, but here I think it really works well. The lighting seems perfect to me, and that's tough with glass reflections and everything else going on. How did you light that?

A couple things that I think might make it even better (though I could be wrong, I guess I'd have to see the changes - and of course it's just my subjective view) - maybe there could be a little more area above the glass? It feels a little closed in to me. And since I'm a beer guy too, when I think of a wheat beer, I generally think of a lot of creamy, white head on it. So maybe the glass could be filled a little lower, and with more foam?

Certainly minor details, a really great shot, IMO. I'll be curious what your instructor has to say.

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Thanks for the critique! Heres a photo of my setup. Work lights with natural light bulbs from 2 sides and top through a bankers box with tracing paper sides and top. I see you caught the closed in feel. I got that too. I think the problem stems from the bankers box being too small and the largest tracing paper I could find was 11 x14. I need a bigger setup so that I can get more light behind the beer to create a thin line of light down each side. I also need to work on the beer head. That beer had been sitting a while during setup and I stirred to get as much head as I could. Plus I've been keeping my CO2 PSI low because I have a stout in my 2nd keg. I'm going to make a bigger light box. Next time I'll have everything ready before I tap the beer. I read that the pros put glycerin on their glasses to retain the wet look. I did that, but I think I put too much glycerin on it. I'll report in with my teacher's thoughts.

Nice panorama btw!

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Thanks for the critique! Here's a photo of my setup. Work lights with natural light bulbs from 2 sides and top through a bankers box with tracing paper sides and top. ....
Ahhhh, I had a feeling that some work and thought went into that light set up. Lighting really is key.

After I posted, I took another look, and I have to say that on closer inspection I was even more impressed. I know the 'food porn' photographers really put in a lot of effort to get the shots they get, and to my eyes, your photo is equal in quality to those high end food shots.

I expect that your instructor will be impressed as well.

You know, you might be able to add some 'top' to that shot in an image manipulation program (I use GIMP, free, open source on all platforms). You could expand the canvas, then the tricky part would be to paste in more of that black background seamlessly. But I'm sure it can be done.

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You know, you might be able to add some 'top' to that shot in an image manipulation program (I use GIMP, free, open source on all platforms). You could expand the canvas, then the tricky part would be to paste in more of that black background seamlessly. But I'm sure it can be done.

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A better idea would be to just drink the beer and pour some more to photograph. Repeat until you get it just right. Several attempts might be required.
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The ones I uploaded were anywhere from ~ 400K to 3M. I think the forum software resizes them to something reasonable for viewing on a monitor, tossing out the hi-rez version. I just downloaded one of mine, and it was a mere 80K.

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So out of curiosity, I took another stab at adjusting the perspective and cropping of my picture of the cross lit up on St. Stephan's Basilica. Original posted here.

Since my first rough attempt struck me as too flat and weird, I kept most of the vertical perspective, and mainly adjusted it from the side, so you are now looking straight on, but from below. Then I cropped it to take out some distracting non-symmetrical components, leaving a transparent background. I think I like this better, but it's mainly just playing around.

heh-heh, I see that pesky upper-left corner is still off by a hair...

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Last night I took a pic just before sunset, then the other about two hours after sunset, to see the difference. As I expected these isn't much color in the trees from the light of the moon! I live too close to NYC to get good night sky photos :-( The exposure was 30 seconds on the night shot.
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Liked the beer and pretzel shot as well. A low backlight keyed on the glass might bring out the tanslucence of the beer, were you so inclined.

If you're shooting digital, under exposing the shot (1stop?) then adjusting the contrast maybe tweaking the histogram - would keep the highlights of the foam and towel, but bring out the texture of them both, without changing the mid tones


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A good resource for digital photographers is DPChallenge - A Digital Photography Contest. It runs numerous photo challenges in which photographers rate and critique each other. Registration is free, and the photo must be taken during the time frame of the competition - you can't use a photo taken prior to the start of the challenge. Fun and educational.
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You know, you might be able to add some 'top' to that shot in an image manipulation program (I use GIMP, free, open source on all platforms). You could expand the canvas, then the tricky part would be to paste in more of that black background seamlessly. But I'm sure it can be done.
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It can be done in either Photoshop Elements or Photoshop, I've never used GIMP but I'd think it could do it too. The tricky part is matching the subtle graduations in the lighting falloff on the sides and top. PS and (I think) Elements has an "auto-fill" that does a pretty good job of that but not always.
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A better idea would be to just drink the beer and pour some more to photograph. Repeat until you get it just right. Several attempts might be required.
It did take several "takes"
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Ahhhh, I had a feeling that some work and thought went into that light set up. Lighting really is key.

After I posted, I took another look, and I have to say that on closer inspection I was even more impressed. I know the 'food porn' photographers really put in a lot of effort to get the shots they get, and to my eyes, your photo is equal in quality to those high end food shots.

I expect that your instructor will be impressed as well.

You know, you might be able to add some 'top' to that shot in an image manipulation program (I use GIMP, free, open source on all platforms). You could expand the canvas, then the tricky part would be to paste in more of that black background seamlessly. But I'm sure it can be done.

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Instructor said that he liked the shot, and I noted that I thought I could improve the lighting by using a bigger box and he agreed. He suggested to bring the whole arrangement forward toward the camera. He likes to shoot low - he said shooting low extends the light lines down the whole sides of the glass, etc

I use gimp a lot to make beer labels, but haven't ventured into the tougher stuff yet

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Liked the beer and pretzel shot as well. A low backlight keyed on the glass might bring out the tanslucence of the beer, were you so inclined.

If you're shooting digital, under exposing the shot (1stop?) then adjusting the contrast maybe tweaking the histogram - would keep the highlights of the foam and towel, but bring out the texture of them both, without changing the mid tones


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Backlight will definitely help. I'm making a bigger light box and will add back light. This beer is very light and I need more light to get the right color. Tweaking the will help get the black background / light beer combo
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