time and thoughts and being

**Khan** · 08-19-2007, 10:56 PM

Some things I have noticed since retiring.

There are now oceans of time: to do, to think.

I have found much introspection, dredging up many years of events, ideas, opinions, relationships. I allow them and work through them.

I evaluate all those previous incarnations of myself in light of then and now.
(I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now)

I should have done this, shouldn't have done that.

The past can't be changed, and should not be revised, but can be dismissed.

While caught up in the game of working, learning, socializing there is little time to ponder.

Since retirement I have been working on my self, my ideas, my being.

My advice: don't be afraid of where your introspection leads you.

Ed_The_Gypsy · 08-20-2007, 03:16 AM

Khan,

Have you thought about recording your thoughts? In a log or diary.

Just curious.

chinaco · 08-20-2007, 03:32 AM

Having one of those days huh? It happens to everyone.

Maybe you should relabel yourself Khanfucius.

Peaceful_Warrior · 08-20-2007, 12:19 PM

Sounds like you might like my blog or my wife's blog... neither of us are retired, but we ponder stuff and introspection is a significant part of our daily lives.

You also might find the Diamond Heart books to be interesting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khan

Some things I have noticed since retiring.

There are now oceans of time: to do, to think.

I have found much introspection, dredging up many years of events, ideas, opinions, relationships. I allow them and work through them.

I evaluate all those previous incarnations of myself in light of then and now.
(I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now)

I should have done this, shouldn't have done that.

The past can't be changed, and should not be revised, but can be dismissed.

While caught up in the game of working, learning, socializing there is little time to ponder.

Since retirement I have been working on my self, my ideas, my being.

My advice: don't be afraid of where your introspection leads you.

flipstress · 08-20-2007, 12:35 PM

"Self: the final frontier."

Good journey to you, Khan, and to each of us on this trip!

lazygood4nothinbum · 08-23-2007, 02:56 AM

one of the reasons my mother always worked (and why she wanted me to keep working) was that she didn't want to have so much time to think. not that she didn't think, because it was readily apparent to everyone who met her what a thoughtful person mom was, and not that she wasn't introspective, because she spent more time than anyone i know in all sorts of psychological therapies & workshops, but still she preferred the concentration & distraction from herself provided by tasks and work.

others in their work--whether as a corporate climber or a competitive entrepreneur--are often so driven by ego that introspection is limited to only what supports that and denies access to thought processes which might subdue the ego and thereby lessen ambition.

and so it can be that when one becomes comfortable enough with oneself and one's thoughts, when one has stopped racing the world, when the ego no longer requires so much attention, when we no longer have to look out for the other guy that we can look in towards ourselves, reflect, reach out and grow.

Peaceful_Warrior · 08-23-2007, 11:18 AM

lg4b - very true. I'm going through something related in my life now... it's becoming very clear that corporate is not for me, and I feel compelled to be paving my own paths for career / money.

Unfortunately, right now I'm in golden handcuffs and that doesn't help with regards to working through my issues relating to attachment to money (which of course is reinforced by focusing on FIRE rather than focusing on happiness which could very well lead to FIRE).

I suspect though within a few years, my life will be very different than it is now in those regards.

lazygood4nothinbum · 08-23-2007, 02:20 PM

dude, do yourself a favor. forget working through your "issues relating to attachment to money" until you have enough that it is no longer an issue. i'm pretty sure hadn't i been so damned introspective, had i stopped thinking and set my mind to the task as my mother tried to instruct me, that i would have been retired at 30 with an extra 18 years to contemplate my navel.

dex · 08-23-2007, 06:26 PM

Khan,
Good "Deep Thougths"
We are on the same wave length.

**Khan** · 08-23-2007, 09:09 PM

I did not expect this; it took me by surprise.

I wanted to warn people that it could happen and to not be afraid of it.

One answer to "What do you do all day?"

Think.

Were only I more eloquent.

Kwirk · 08-23-2007, 09:50 PM

"Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then"

**Khan** · 08-23-2007, 10:00 PM

"Won't sail upwind on memories"

chinaco · 08-24-2007, 04:43 AM

It is difficult to wax philosophical while I am still dragging my w*rk "ball and chain" around.

unclemick · 08-24-2007, 08:08 AM

I was canned in Jan 1993.

I thunk my way from unemployed to ER.

heh heh heh - Of course an outside observer would say - dinking around from age 49 to 55 didn't really count. Age 55 first pension check - made everything official early retirement wise. Thinking is an inside job.

ronin · 08-24-2007, 10:23 AM

why wait? it's always now somewhere in the universe. forgiveness is giving up hope of a better past. forgive yourself. strive to do better now.

citrine · 08-24-2007, 10:43 AM

When you become you,
Zen becomes Zen.
When you become you,
The whole world falls in love.
--Eshin

ronin · 08-24-2007, 07:26 PM

Retire
Fill a cup to its brim and it is easily spilled;
Temper a sword to its hardest and it is easily broken;
Amass the greatest treasure and it is easily stolen;
Claim credit and honour and you easily fall;
Retire once your purpose is achieved - this is natural.

lazygood4nothinbum · 08-25-2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronin

Retire
Fill a cup to its brim and it is easily spilled;
Temper a sword to its hardest and it is easily broken;
Amass the greatest treasure and it is easily stolen;
Claim credit and honour and you easily fall;
Retire once your purpose is achieved - this is natural.

from the venerable tao te-ka-ching?

ronin · 08-26-2007, 10:42 AM

hee hee

Ed_The_Gypsy · 08-26-2007, 05:48 PM

hey
there's a hell of a great universe next door
let's go

e e cummings

08-19-2007, 10:56 PM	#1
Khan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater Dayton area Posts: 3,177	time and thoughts and being Some things I have noticed since retiring. There are now oceans of time: to do, to think. I have found much introspection, dredging up many years of events, ideas, opinions, relationships. I allow them and work through them. I evaluate all those previous incarnations of myself in light of then and now. (I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now) I should have done this, shouldn't have done that. The past can't be changed, and should not be revised, but can be dismissed. While caught up in the game of working, learning, socializing there is little time to ponder. Since retirement I have been working on my self, my ideas, my being. My advice: don't be afraid of where your introspection leads you. __________________ "Candle wax and red wine can do interesting things to a keyboard."

08-20-2007, 03:16 AM	#2
Ed_The_Gypsy Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,872	Khan, Have you thought about recording your thoughts? In a log or diary. Just curious. __________________ "Ain't got no money for no old-age pension; I'm so broke, I can't pay attention!"

08-20-2007, 03:32 AM	#3
chinaco Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,951	Having one of those days huh? It happens to everyone. Maybe you should relabel yourself Khanfucius. __________________ Disclaimer: I make no warranty or guarantee about the accuracy or completeness of this information. I am not a financial planner, my comments only represent my opinion.

08-23-2007, 02:56 AM	#6
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,789	one of the reasons my mother always worked (and why she wanted me to keep working) was that she didn't want to have so much time to think. not that she didn't think, because it was readily apparent to everyone who met her what a thoughtful person mom was, and not that she wasn't introspective, because she spent more time than anyone i know in all sorts of psychological therapies & workshops, but still she preferred the concentration & distraction from herself provided by tasks and work. others in their work--whether as a corporate climber or a competitive entrepreneur--are often so driven by ego that introspection is limited to only what supports that and denies access to thought processes which might subdue the ego and thereby lessen ambition. and so it can be that when one becomes comfortable enough with oneself and one's thoughts, when one has stopped racing the world, when the ego no longer requires so much attention, when we no longer have to look out for the other guy that we can look in towards ourselves, reflect, reach out and grow. __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

08-23-2007, 11:18 AM	#7
Peaceful_Warrior Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 509	lg4b - very true. I'm going through something related in my life now... it's becoming very clear that corporate is not for me, and I feel compelled to be paving my own paths for career / money. Unfortunately, right now I'm in golden handcuffs and that doesn't help with regards to working through my issues relating to attachment to money (which of course is reinforced by focusing on FIRE rather than focusing on happiness which could very well lead to FIRE). I suspect though within a few years, my life will be very different than it is now in those regards. __________________ Awaken Your Spirit at Spiritual-Short-Stories.com!

08-20-2007, 12:35 PM	#5
flipstress Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 534	"Self: the final frontier." Good journey to you, Khan, and to each of us on this trip!

08-23-2007, 02:20 PM	#8
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,789	dude, do yourself a favor. forget working through your "issues relating to attachment to money" until you have enough that it is no longer an issue. i'm pretty sure hadn't i been so damned introspective, had i stopped thinking and set my mind to the task as my mother tried to instruct me, that i would have been retired at 30 with an extra 18 years to contemplate my navel. __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

08-23-2007, 06:26 PM	#9
dex Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,058	Khan, Good "Deep Thougths" We are on the same wave length. __________________ Sometimes death is not as tragic as not knowing how to live. This man knew how to live--and how to make others glad they were living. - Jack Benny at Nat King Cole's funeral

08-23-2007, 09:09 PM	#10
Khan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater Dayton area Posts: 3,177	I did not expect this; it took me by surprise. I wanted to warn people that it could happen and to not be afraid of it. One answer to "What do you do all day?" Think. Were only I more eloquent. __________________ "Candle wax and red wine can do interesting things to a keyboard."

08-23-2007, 09:50 PM	#11
Kwirk Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 123	"Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then" __________________

08-23-2007, 10:00 PM	#12
Khan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater Dayton area Posts: 3,177	"Won't sail upwind on memories" __________________ "Candle wax and red wine can do interesting things to a keyboard."

08-24-2007, 04:43 AM	#13
chinaco Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,951	It is difficult to wax philosophical while I am still dragging my w*rk "ball and chain" around. __________________ Disclaimer: I make no warranty or guarantee about the accuracy or completeness of this information. I am not a financial planner, my comments only represent my opinion.

08-24-2007, 08:08 AM	#14
unclemick Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: north of Kansas City Posts: 5,560	I was canned in Jan 1993. I thunk my way from unemployed to ER. heh heh heh - Of course an outside observer would say - dinking around from age 49 to 55 didn't really count. Age 55 first pension check - made everything official early retirement wise. Thinking is an inside job.

08-24-2007, 10:23 AM	#15
ronin Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 442	why wait? it's always now somewhere in the universe. forgiveness is giving up hope of a better past. forgive yourself. strive to do better now. __________________ a surfer who hasn't wised up to the importance of hard shoes....

08-24-2007, 10:43 AM	#16
citrine Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 455	When you become you, Zen becomes Zen. When you become you, The whole world falls in love. --Eshin

08-24-2007, 07:26 PM	#17
ronin Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 442	Retire Fill a cup to its brim and it is easily spilled; Temper a sword to its hardest and it is easily broken; Amass the greatest treasure and it is easily stolen; Claim credit and honour and you easily fall; Retire once your purpose is achieved - this is natural. __________________ a surfer who hasn't wised up to the importance of hard shoes....

08-26-2007, 10:42 AM	#19
ronin Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 442	hee hee __________________ a surfer who hasn't wised up to the importance of hard shoes....

08-26-2007, 05:48 PM	#20
Ed_The_Gypsy Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,872	hey there's a hell of a great universe next door let's go e e cummings __________________ "Ain't got no money for no old-age pension; I'm so broke, I can't pay attention!"

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