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Old 08-09-2016, 09:36 AM   #21
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Two tiny homes were moved up here to my association using trailer house moving trucks last summer. The owners both replaced fairly large 5th wheel RVs with the larger tiny homes (299 sq ft) on their 5 acre lots. Compared to the RVs, they both are quite roomy and will make very comfortable summer cabins and weekend get-aways. One couple is in their 70s and the other in their early 50s. I think they both have water and septic hookups along with electricity and propane. I don't see the tiny homes ever being moved again.
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I've yet to find a tiny home park--or a place that would even allow them to be in any city. Regular homeowners wouldn't want'em around lowering property prices.
Here's one in San Diego county: https://www.habitatstinyhomes.com Space rent is $850 though so not much savings.

My biggest worry would be who else is living in the park. Higher rents generally correlate with less problematic neighbors.
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Lots of new homes are the same size as the tiny houses--today we have condos vs the detached smaller homes that were built a couple of generations ago.

I read somewhere that the vast majority of the tiny home owners never live in them or sell them within a year. DH and I could easily live in them, but we would each need our own. Or one of us would then be moved into an even tinier home, in a prison, and one into a grave.
....DH wondered what the statistics would be on that scenario.
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(1) I think the tiny homes have that indescribable cute factor that makes them appealing to some people, even though living in them might not be so doggone cute. Tripping over stuff that one forgot to immediately put away would sure detract from the cuteness and fun of living in a tiny house.

(2) Also, I think the tiny homes appeal to the MacGyver ingenuity-fun factor for engineers and others who enjoy figuring out how to maximize the use of the tiny space available. Like the cute factor, the ingenuity-fun factor is likely to be less appealing after living in the home for a while. For example, having to pull the table top out from under the bed (or where ever it is kept) and assemble the table every time you want to use it, has got to grow old pretty quickly.

I don't really want one. But I must admit that I enjoy watching the shows about them. They have a somewhat irrational appeal.

I think that those who find them appealing, should seriously look into buying one of those 2 BR, 1 bath, 800 sf 1950's homes. Those homes are plentiful all over the country at bargain prices, because there isn't much demand for them.
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There must be some kind of a demand for the builders to make so many of them.

And these aren't cookie-cutter designs, they all seem to have unique, quirky or cool features.
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I think that those who find them appealing, should seriously look into buying one of those 2 BR, 1 bath, 800 sf 1950's homes. Those homes are plentiful all over the country at bargain prices, because there isn't much demand for them.
+1 That's a great idea. I can picture the TV show already!

800-900 sq ft, though small by many people's standards, is within the range of feasibility for a lot more folk than just the tiny house crowd. Sadly though, even those types of homes are expensive here in the SF Bay Area but then, all houses are pricey here (unless you've owned them for many years).
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I believe 700-900 sq.ft. is comfortable living for a single person. For a couple, perhaps 1200-1500 sq.ft. We have more, but then it's paid for and there's no reason to downsize.

A tiny home may be OK as a place to sleep, like a cruise ship cabin. For normal living, one needs room to spread out, to have hobbies. We are homebodies, and would go crazy if we have no room for "stuff" to keep ourselves entertained. If one is content with just surfin' the Web all day on a tiny smart phone or going out all the time, then yes, he would not need much space.
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+1 That's a great idea. I can picture the TV show already!

800-900 sq ft, though small by many people's standards, is within the range of feasibility for a lot more folk than just the tiny house crowd. Sadly though, even those types of homes are expensive here in the SF Bay Area but then, all houses are pricey here (unless you've owned them for many years).
The SF Bay Area seems to be an anomaly, or at least it appears so to those of us living far away. Last night I was looking at houses in SF on realtor dot com, not that I want to move there, but just to see what they cost. I have fond memories of living in Berkeley and SF back in the 1960's, so I have an interest in the area. I was floored to see the prices, which were even higher than the last time I looked.

But, if you look at someplace like Springfield, Missouri, you can get a 2/1 800 sf house like that for an amazingly low price that would allow plenty left over for renovations and dolling it up.
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(1) I think the tiny homes have that indescribable .
So we will be seeing a 'hello kitty' themed tiny home in the future?
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My parents built a house 25 years ago (2000 sq. ft) and are now downsizing to reduce the maintenance and yard work (300' lot). I've been searching for houses for them...they are looking for 800 - 900 sq. ft.
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So we will be seeing a 'hello kitty' themed tiny home in the future?
I think they already have it!
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If someone wants to drastically lower their cost of living, a fifth wheel RV would be a much more reasonable way than a tiny house. You get twice the room at half the cost--and they're much more comfortable.

I've yet to find a tiny home park--or a place that would even allow them to be in any city. Regular homeowners wouldn't want'em around lowering property prices.

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Seems to me that an RV that is already designed for compact living is more practical....
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Personally I think they are ridiculous for a primary residence. One would have to be VERY hard up to consider this.


I agree an RV is a way more viable option.
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I like watching the shows, and for the most part it does seem to be a LBYM thing. I have also thought though that you would get a better deal with a trailer or mobile home.
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DW and I think we can easily do 8-900 sq ft... once we get the kid(s?) out of the house. Perhaps we're being too narrow-minded, but I can't see raising 2 kids in our current 1400sq-ft 2/2, but I also don't want to go much over 2000 3/3 ever. Can't see the need. I'd like someplace for grandparents to stay and at least one BR big enough for two girls or separate BR for a girl and a boy.


Once they're gone and we're entering our 60s, then I can see really downsizing to 8-900. Tiny house size is bananas small to me.
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I can’t even imagine our life in a “tiny house”. First of all --- MAJOR climb to the bedroom --- NOT good planning.

When we retired, we moved much closer to our daughters and their families. We now all live in the same town. We went from 2500 Sq. ft to 3400 sq.ft. There is rarely a day that I don’t appreciate this decision. The little kids (and often their friends) have their own playroom, game room and lots of space for all the adults on the weekends.

It would not have been nearly as pleasant for all, were we crammed into a smaller space. My husband has a work room and is also happy.

To each his own. This is not a way of economizing that “works for us”. Yes, eventually we will have to bite the bullet and maybe downsize or assisted living. In the meantime we have room for visiting family, enjoying our kids, and the freedom to move around in the winter.
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I prefer if people keep buying/building large homes...then when they can no longer pay the bills and the bank takes the home...other people can buy at a discount, lulz.

Tiny house wouldnt be for me...I would rather have a pull behind camper/5th wheel thing or whatever you call them.
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Personally I think they are ridiculous for a primary residence. One would have to be VERY hard up to consider this.


I agree an RV is a way more viable option.
Maybe for YOU. For other folks? Who cares? It's their choice to make. As my DW likes to say, "If you aren't cooking for me, paying my bills or (fill in the blank here) me, then what does it matter to you?"

I don't know about a "revolution" going on...I think it's just the new thing that folks will watch on TV, hence the several shows on the same subject. Same as the "Island/Beach Hunters", "Tree Houses", and well...you get the point.
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A lot of those Tiny House Hunters probably wouldn't consider RVs or traditional trailer homes.

So there is kind of a hipster cool about these things, it seems.

Not a hipster but if I had to downsize like that, I wouldn't consider RV or traditional trailers.

I don't need mobility, in fact I'd rather be hooked up to utilities and infrastructure.

Traditional trailer parks are usually in inconvenient locations, like the edges of towns rather than near stores and other places you'd have to frequent. Plus the neighbors ...
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A disadvantage of a travel trailer or a 5th wheel is that they are meant to be light for travel, therefore are built more flimsy than some tiny houses. The walls are often fiberglass on 1" foam panel, and that's all you have for insulation.

On the other hand, tiny homes are often expensive for the square footage they provide. Perhaps a lot of the cost is in the labor to build each unique home, because I cannot see the material cost being that much compared to the quoted price.

How about the old park models? I have once stayed in a timeshare unit that's a park model. It was quite comfortable, and felt more solid than an RV. The kitchen and bathroom counters, fixtures, appliances are all residential quality. The bed was a normal queen size. It makes for much more comfortable living than a typical tiny home.

I think many tiny homes are built as quasi travel trailers. This may be intentional for traveling, or to escape some city ordinance or building codes. Park models are also treated as RV. They are mass produced and so perhaps have the economy of scale. They lack the "custom" or uniqueness of tiny homes, but they surely offer more square footage for the money. They are not that mobile, and moving one is not an easy thing.
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