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Old 08-05-2008, 10:29 PM   #41
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I'm not believing that Khan is a woman. Just because he/she looks like his/her mom doesn't mean that.

I'm thinking back to a post where Khan said something like 'I'm just a white guy' or something and I thought... hmmm, I always pictured him as Asian (I think because of the Khan character on King of the Hill)

Will the real Khan please stand up?

EDIT: Ok, I went to read the other posts that NW was referring to in the Ripped Tendon thread. Sorry, I guess I was just thinking you were a guy and that other quote must have been "I just white" or something. Ok, so I'm my mind you have gone from an Asian guy to a white lady... Interesting!
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:57 PM   #42
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No. But I admit I would be more impressed that you changed your engine oil. I had to run off to double check your old post to be sure. I know of no woman doing that. Nor one who sampled squirrels!
My SIL is a Volvo certified mechanic... I think she changes her own oil but she cheats by throwing it on the lift at work.
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But does knowledge of my gender (or age or whatever) change how you interpret what I write?
This is an interesting question. Perhaps you feel that it should not. I feel the opposite- not about you in particular but about any person. What could be more salient about a person than his or her sex, age, place of residence, etc.? The rest is largely smoke.

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I was putting clothes on the line about 11AM on a cool (for August) dry morning and I experienced something.
Zen?
Tao?
Fugue state?
Oneness with the Universe?
A temporary losing of the boundaries between self and not-self?

This has happened before: On the point of a St Croix beach at 2AM on a moonless night standing in the Trade Winds watching the surf.

Minor and insignificant in the universe at large, but a bit interesting and disconcerting.
Oh yeah, I get this feeling when I drink too much moon shine.
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Is "howling at the moon" part of being one with the universe?
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An altered state and not chemically induced -- wish I could experience that. No epiphany?
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It has always been a surreal experience for me. Everything around me was so vivid and alive while I simply did not exist. Yet, I was able to see it all and feel it.
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Oh yeah, I get this feeling when I drink too much moon shine.
All human societies have sought mind-altering experiences through various combinations of drugs, fasting, meditation, physical activity...

This popped into mind:

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Is "howling at the moon" part of being one with the universe?
"On a hot summer night" ?
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They told me that the sun turned green, I said I didn't know
And then they told me that the moon turned blue, I said it didn't show
And then they told me that I looked like a fool, I even said I'd let that go
But when they told that that our love was dead, I had to turn and go.

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Wow, and here I was thinking "Stray Cat Strut"....
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It has always been a surreal experience for me. Everything around me was so vivid and alive while I simply did not exist. Yet, I was able to see it all and feel it.
how can you know that you "simply did not exist". the closest you might be able to describe such "an experience" would be one of coming into or going out of existing, not one of nonexistence which would be nonexperienced.

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An altered state and not chemically induced -- wish I could experience that. No epiphany?
from what i've read on some forum discussions, seems mostly the kids today are less into epiphany and more into using their dreams as video gaming. could be worthy practice nonetheless. epiphany can be so overrated and perhaps not all that long lasting.

you will likely understand yourself better and more deeply by exploring yourself on your own than by instruction of a book. but while a book is good for confirmation of what you might have just personally experienced, i suppose, there's also the "why bother reinventing the wheel" argument, especially when in western culture this type of thinking seems so very less than ingrained that we just might be a few 1000 years behind our times. so, here's a wheel:

How to learn to have Lucid Dreams

like the third world industrializing, playing catch-up can be dangerous. but for those without the patience to learn themselves just what they are made, one can force the issue with a bit of trauma, as khan suggests....

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how can you know that you "simply did not exist". the closest you might be able to describe such "an experience" would be one of coming into or going out of existing, not one of nonexistence which would be nonexperienced.
I feel my heart beat, the sun on my skin, my hair touching my face, the moisture in my mouth and on my lips. When I have this experience, I feel none of that. It happens in a flash and I'm not aware of going out of or coming into existence. I simply observe everything around me. Everything I observe seems to have life...and a soul.
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not to discount any wonder of such experience, simply saying that acknowledgment, recognition or awareness (etc.) alone of phenomena implies both observer and observed, so confers separation, not at oneness.
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I understand. The experience is strange and even more difficult to explain.
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meanwhile, below on a cruise-liner, several hundred innocent souls seeing a light-aircraft plummeting down into thier summer vacation bliss, seemingly with nobody in control (or the pilot under the influence of mild-altering drugs) were frantically running for cover, sheltering thier children or down on thier knees praying for deliverance. But hey, just as long as you were in the zone! :d
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I am guilty of this sterotyping . In fact Meadbh , I thought you were a guy . Your avatar used to be a guy sitting on the beach . So I guess we are all gender confused on the internet.
Moe, IIRC I got that photo from the web and just thought it was cool!

Meadbh (aka Audrey Hepburn in my last avatar)
Definitely a girl!

And speaking of avatars.....I see you are now the Girl from Ipanema, complete with fruit basket on head.
Next thing you will be saying you are a man.
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We can state our gender on our profile and post replies with reference to same, however we are unable to prove we are a particular sex on this forum. Hmmmm....

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I've gotten the feeling often. Whether its in a crowd watching a child play, looking at the stars, alone in nature... its always the same yet different each time. I often get the feeling when I smudge (if you know what that is you'll understand).
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