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Old 01-30-2007, 08:00 PM   #41
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Interesting. I've never heard of them being eaten. I thought all they were good for was pack animals and wool. Do they taste like venison, or do they have a distinct unique flavor?
Both DW and I thought that it tasted a bit like pork. Pretty good flavor. I think I've only eaten venison once and don't remember what it tastes like.
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Re: Uh Oh the wife wants to raise Alpacas.
Old 01-30-2007, 08:26 PM   #42
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Just a quick note on this one: Although you didn't have it on your short list, you may be interested to know that Rabbits can also be very long-lived. We found out the hard way!
(made a heck of a great Easter that year, tho)

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Just a quick note on this one: Although you didn't have it on your short list, you may be interested to know that Rabbits can also be very long-lived. We found out the hard way!
(made a heck of a great Easter that year, tho)
Ours is turning six years old in a few months (we think) and I hate to ask-- but how long did yours live?
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I know it wasn't directed at me, but Bugs lived 16 years.
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Having read Nords occasional comments regarding "after the bunny dies..." it seems there may be a mismatch between expectations and reality...sooo...

http://www.mybunnyfarm.com/Rabbitrecipes/index.htm

5-12 years seems to be the consensus range, with a top end possibility of 15-16 years for a well-cared for bunny that was spayed or neutered early in life.
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5-12 years seems to be the consensus range, with a top end possibility of 15-16 years for a well-cared for bunny that was spayed or neutered early in life.
Why is that? Just due to lower cancer risk of the gonads, or something else?
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Why is that? Just due to lower cancer risk of the gonads, or something else?
Definitely a lack of testosterone which leads to driving bunny cars too fast, shooting bunny guns while drinking bunny beer, picking fights at the carrot juice bar....
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Thats exactly it. Hell, this bunny was once seen riding on the hood of a truck, pistol in one hand and a 5th of whiskey in the other.

Probably wouldnt have happened if i'd been "fixed" earlier in life.

Actual answer is that everything lives longer if you remove the reproductive goodies. Lots of reasons. Reduced urge to roam, reduced possibility of contracting a shared disease, prostate/hernia/cancer benefits, sexual and territorial aggression and reduction in mood swings.

In translating these benefits to our own human experiences, its obvious that a lot of undesirable interactions and resulting exposures/reactions would occur.

My dads doctor once told him that men would live a lot longer if they had their testicles and prostate removed at a certain age rather than prescribing viagra...but who the hell'd want to live longer?
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I know it wasn't directed at me, but Bugs lived 16 years.
#%^.

Ours receives excellent care and was neutered around eight months of age-- during his incarceration. He'd been picked up for reckless hopping down a Waimanalo road, although he swears the carrot-juice container wasn't open.

The oldest we've seen is a 12-year-old bunny with dual cataracts and the equivalent of Parkinson's. It didn't look pretty but it was able to navigate its turf and do its bunny business.

If our kid gets her way she's leaving the coop in three years, five months, and a week. We just thought it'd be nice closure for the bunny to check out at the same time. Doesn't look like there's much chance of that happening! Unless, of course, something scares the cardiac crap out of him in the middle of the night...
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If your bunny expires TOO soon, there might be hope.

A man is riding his Triumph motorcycle along a highway and sees a rabbit jump out across the middle of the road.

He swerves to avoid hitting it, but, unfortunately, the rabbit jumps right in front of his bike.

The rider,a sensitive man as well as an animal lover, stops to see what has become of the rabbit. Much to his dismay, the rabbit is dead.

The rider feels so awful that he begins to cry.

A beautiful blonde woman driving down the highway. She sees the man crying on the side of the road and pulls over.

She steps out of the car and asks the man what's wrong.

"I feel terrible," he explains. "I accidentally hit this rabbit and killed it."

The blonde says, "Don't worry." She runs to her car and brings back a spray can.

She walks over to the limp, dead rabbit, bends down and sprays the contents onto the rabbit.

Amazingly the rabbit jumps up, waves a paw at the two of them and hops off down the road.

Ten feet away the rabbit stops, turns around and waves again.

He hops down the road another 10 feet, turns and waves, hops another ten feet, turns and waves and repeats this again and again and again until he hops out of sight.

The man is astonished. He runs over to the woman and demands, "What is in that can? What did you spray on that rabbit?"


The woman turns the can around so that the man can read the label. It says...

" Miracle Hair Spray - Restores life to dead hair and gives long lasting wave."


I didn't make this up.
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A blind rabbit and a blind snake meet each other. Neither one remembers what kind of animal they are, so they decide to feel each other.

The rabbit says, "You feel me first." The snake says okay, and he starts feeling the rabbit.

He says, "Well, you have fur all over, and a little cotton tail, and two long ears, and big back feet..."

The rabbit says, "I know! I'm a rabbit! Yippee!" Then the rabbit feels the snake.
He says, "Okay, you're long and thin, and slimy all over, and there's a little forked tongue..."

The snake says, "Oh no!" " I'm a lawyer."


After a long day at the office, Bob came home one day to find his dog with the neighbor's pet rabbit in his mouth. The rabbit was obviously dead.

"If my neighbors find out my dog killed their bunny, they'll hate me forever," he thought.

So he took the dirty, chewed up rabbit into the house, gave it a bath and blow-dried its fur.

He knew his neighbors kept their backdoor open during the summer, so he snuck inside and put the bunny back into the cage, hoping his neighbors would think it died of natural causes.

A couple of days later he saw his neighbors outside.

"Did you hear that Fluffy died?" the neighbor asked.

"Oh. Uhmm... Sorry to hear that. What happened?"

The neighbor replied, "We just found him dead in his cage one day. But the strange thing is that the day after we buried him, we went out to dinner and some sick bastard dug him up, washed him and put him back into the cage!"
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Snakes aren't slimy.
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Whats the difference between a dead bunny and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road?



Skid marks in front of the bunny.
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Snakes aren't slimy.
I hate snakes and I live near a creek in North Carolina and we got copperheads, black racers and garter snakes.

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Alpacas the inside story

I saw this thread on Google so signed up just to tell you what its really like.

At one extreme you can buy two gelded males for maybe $500 shear them each year spin the wool and knit up some great sweaters. Its fun and plenty of people do it but you will not get rich doing this. Its a cottage industry and not much different from having a pony or a couple of dogs. They live at least 20 years and yes just as there are dogs that bite there are alpacas that spit... so buy ones that don't spit.....unless you like that sort of thing!

At the other extreme you can get involved in the breeding market which has been going on for 22 years now. But be careful at some point the market has to move from breeding to production and at that point prices for average animals will fall. Don't buy in unless you can afford to lose it all and not even notice.

If you are thinking about putting your life savings into alpacas ...lie down until the feeling goes away.

A few people are making a great deal of money and some aren't. Do they care? I don't think they do, many are folks who like breeding and showing their alpacas and winning ribbons. Knitting sweaters and hanging out with other breeders.Will their kids take over the farm when they retire? I doubt it very much... these are not farming folks its a lifestyle thing a bit like like owning horses.


I suggest you go to one of the big alpaca auctions that happen all over the US. There is almost always free food and drink, usually at a great location and you can watch doctors and dentists pay anything from $30,000 to as much as $500,000 for one really top alpaca.....completely crazy if you ask me, but its a great atmosphere and its fun to watch.

At the end you will think wow that farm just made $3 million in one day selling alpacas ....and you are right they did...but do not imagine for one moment you can do the same simply by buying a handful of animals and taking them home with you.

Instead buy a couple of really soft and beautiful alpaca sweaters for each other and head home.

May all your dreams come true........








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Interesting. I've never heard of them being eaten. I thought all they were good for was pack animals and wool. Do they taste like venison, or do they have a distinct unique flavor?
In my experience, they taste like beef with a little pepper and sweetness added. Actually, I really liked it when we were in Peru, and wish it was easily available here. Guinea pig, on the other, the Peruvians can keep.
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In my experience, they taste like beef with a little pepper and sweetness added. Actually, I really liked it when we were in Peru, and wish it was easily available here. Guinea pig, on the other, the Peruvians can keep.
Man, I really, really wanted to try guinea pig when we were there. We saw it being raised everywhere in the villages so we thought it should be pretty easy to get. We tried to order some on our last couple of nights in Arequipa and Lima and couldn't find it anywhere!
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Man, I really, really wanted to try guinea pig when we were there. We saw it being raised everywhere in the villages so we thought it should be pretty easy to get. We tried to order some on our last couple of nights in Arequipa and Lima and couldn't find it anywhere!
We found the same thing. We did finally get some in a little chicha bar up in the mountains. It seemed okay after a few glasses of chicha.
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Ours is turning six years old in a few months (we think) and I hate to ask-- but how long did yours live?
Hey, Nords, sorry for the delay - I haven't kept up on this thread. Our dd's bunny lived several years, but if I had to guess, I wouldn't say more than 6 or 7 years. Felt a lot longer at the time - little kids don't do a real good job of taking care of pets (duh!). When the Easter Bunny decided to bring the bunny it seemed like a good idea at the time! Meanwhile, my dh and I feel your pain about the empty nest having furr balls in it. Our youngest left for college in the fall and we still have the girls' two cats! 10 and 5 yrs so we have quite a while to go yet. DH says when the oldest dd grads this spring that she gets to take her cat with her when (ha, ha) she gets out on her own. Did I tell you guys three weeks after younger dd went off to college older dd moved back home?! (still finishing school, tho) : God does have a sense of humor, in case you were wondering ..........

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Alpacas the inside story

I saw this thread on Google so signed up just to tell you what its really like.
Wow, awesome reply! Really appreciate you giving us that 'insider's view'.

Now you have my interest peaked - not for alpacas per se, but to see those folks in their alpaca auction culture!

Hey, do I sense another mockumentary opportunity, i.e. "Best in show"?

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