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It was used in the "Numerical Applications to Differential Equations" class.* Painful memories...* Very painful.
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Looks like OAP and Uncle Mick need to get together on find a new home for stuff...one has and no longer wants.....one lost all but still needs.

My mother recently sold her house and moved into Assisted Living. My brother and I took all we could of her stuff but she still had a ton that had to be give away or tossed. She lives on 10% of the stuff she used to have and says she misses a few of her family treasures but otherwise is fine with what she has left.

I am slooooooooooooooowly getting rid of stuff my late wife hoarded over her lifetime. Most of it has value and I can't bring myself to just throw it away or give it away.....at least for now. Family members don't have room for the boxes of old family pictures and old movies....what do you do with it besides keep it? I have such a hard time getting rid of these kinds of things. Trinkets, knick knacks and other "stuff" was not so bad and I took care of that over a year ago. I keep waiting for my kids to get out of school with the hopes they will settle down somewhere and want some of the excess stuff but I have a feeling they will not want it and I will be stuck with getting rid of it. I know I should just let it go but the memories are too difficult to just give to some stranger. Maybe someday I will feel differently.

Anybody need a couple of sets of dishes.............I think I am down to 7 sets now. :
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Anybody need a couple of sets of dishes.............I think I am down to 7 sets now.* :
The local homeless shelter/soup kitchen. Seriously.
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Any kind of shelter. I'll be calling around for some over the next few days as I just bought a new gigantic set of pans to replace my rag-tag collection from three different sets...and cleaned all the rest of the seldom used crap out of my kitchen this morning while i was at it.

Between goodwill regional CEO's making a million dollars a year and even the yuba city one getting picky about what they'll take, I've decided they've gotten my last box o' stuff.

I've got OAP fever...I'm sick of jammed cabinets, garage and sheds... :P
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OAP, sounds like you have reduced things to the right degree for yourself.. There aren't all that many people (in the "First World", at least) that can say all their "stuff" fits into a 4x4x4' space!

When I first moved overseas, I came with four suitcases: clothes/shoes/coats for summer & winter and the rest books, laptop & CDs, and... kitchen gadgets and knives I couldn't do without!!* I didn't miss any of the rest of my personal "stuff" which I had boxed up and left in the basement of my house (which I rented furnished in the meantime).

Now fast-forward a few years, to when we made our definitive move: we shipped 2 40' long CONTAINERS of stuff! 1 was our 2 cars, the other.. everything else. Once you get into "container" territory, it doesn't cost any more to just keep piling the stuff in! That notwithstanding, we got rid of at least 30 boxes of books, and about 25 SUV-loads of everything under the sun to the local Goodwill. As CFB pointed out, they are getting super-picky, so while I was careful not to give them stuff that was truly of zero value, I'm sure they put a lot of it into the dumpster anyway. 4 'antique' manual typewriters, 2 aquarium setups, a pristine old professional slide projector.. I could go on... I just didn't have the time or the energy to E-bay it. I guess I didn't really learn much from my 4-suitcase move.. 'cause here I am sitting amongst my old "stuff" once again, even tho' it is only 1/2 of it!!

--- Those who need to de-junk": definitely cultivate an E-bay friend/acquaintance if you are not of a mind to do it yourself. Even splitting the profit 50/50 you'll be surprised at how far ahead you can come out. [Case in point: we're looking through mom's garage and come across a bag full of 30-year-old stuffed animals.. not in the worst shape ever, but certainly nothing you would buy for your kid, even at a yard sale for 25c!! Dusty, musty. Mom's friend, a serious E-bayer spies one big "dog", says "let's see what we can get for that", and sells it for.. $75!!!!!!!* * *I am not kidding!]

SteveR, maybe what you should do with the old movies is take them to a place that will put them on a DVD for you. It might cost a bit, but then you can make copies for the rest of your family as gifts. At some point it will become difficult to find a working home movie player/screen anyway..

OAP, it's great that you'll soon be "footloose"!! Thanks for inspiring us to re-examine and purge.. now I'll start right in on all the junk in the garage!.. umm, after I finish my coffee.
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He also took about 90 VCR tapes recently (World at War, War in the Pacific, etc, Fugitive, Twighlight Zone, all boxed sets). I nearly cried parting with those.
Ah yes. When I sold my mcmansion and had to get rid of half my stuff before moving in here, I came across the boxes and boxes of NFL games I had taped in the 80's and early 90's. I had completely forgotten about them. In fact, I didnt even own a VCR anymore : Took some to my then-girlfriends house and watched 'em. Old Joe Montana's 49ers vs Phil Simms Giants. Warren Moon trying to win a championship with the chuck and duck run and shoot in houston when houston wasnt in tennesee. A lot of guys who are balding announcers now, in their prime. Then took them all to the dump and set them to one side of the pile.

Somewhere, maybe someone was a bit pleased after the initial disappointment that they hadnt found a treasure trove of porn...
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I keep waiting for my kids to get out of school with the hopes they will settle down somewhere and want some of the excess stuff but I have a feeling they will not want it and I will be stuck with getting rid of it.* I know I should just let it go but the memories are too difficult to just give to some stranger.* Maybe someday I will feel differently.

Anybody need a couple of sets of dishes.............I think I am down to 7 sets now.* :
Steve, I sure understand those feelings.* I have not even begun to deal with my mother's possessions.* * She collected things and her "stuff" was so important to her, that I am going to have a hard time getting rid of it.* *

I wanted to comment on the kids wanting stuff -* my grandmother died while I was in college - Back then I couldn't stand the idea of owning more stuff than I could pack in my Vega.* I had no interest in antiques at all.* Mom couldn't keep it all so lots of beautiful furniture, etc. was sold at an estate sale.* 7-8 years later, as I settled down and was setting up housekeeping, and my tastes started to change, I would have LOVED to have some of that stuff.* I still sort of regret it.

So, my point is if you are willing to wait long enough, the kids may come around.*
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Great thread. It reminds me that the phrase "you can't take it with you" doesn't just apply to death... it applies to many places we want to go in life.

I am finding myself developing a bit more of a hoarding mentality now that I'm trying to live the FIRE life on less income than I had when working. I decided to keep some old cell phone car chargers in case I ever buy that brand of cell phone again, whereas in the past I would have just donated them and bought them again if I needed them.

One good way of motivating myself to get rid of stuff is just realizing how expensive it is to keep posessions. The costs include:

1. Real estate costs to store it. I live in the California, one of the most expensive places to live in the world, and my posessions live here too. It's enlightening to calculate the footprint costs of my items... rent is about $20/square foot per year, so an extra piece of furniture that takes up 6 square feet of space and lasts 10 years costs me $1200 just for the space it takes up.

2. Storage furnishings. The shelves I built in my closet, the bookshelves on the wall, chests of drawers... all these things are needed to store my stuff, and cost money. The less stuff I have the less I have to spend time and money on containers.

3. The clutter factor. Things that I don't use much end up making it harder to find the things I do want to use. Digging through piles of things takes time that could be used for something else.

Anyway, OAP, I say good luck in getting rid of your stuff. I like your approach of digitizing the photos and other memorabilia. That is one thing I've been planning on doing in my free time.



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Mom couldn't keep it all so lots of beautiful furniture, etc. was sold at an estate sale.* 7-8 years later, as I settled down and was setting up housekeeping, and my tastes started to change, I would have LOVED to have some of that stuff.
My father held an estate sale when he downsized in the early '90s. *Admittedly he was selling a lot of furniture & tchotchkes that he considered more my deceased mother's than his own, but he also disposed of a pile of his tools & woodworking supplies. *Before eBay that was the best way to get rid of a house full of "stuff". He didn't have anything that we wanted-- heck, we still had too much of my grandparent's stuff.

One of the few-- perhaps the only-- good thing about our military moves is that they forced us to pare down our possessions every six months 2-3 years. *A dozen moves over two decades either pares down the junk or ensures that it's broken during the process. *

Now we have little incentive to get rid of the excess. *Because after all, we have the storage space, we're not going anywhere, and that Snoopy & Woodstock push-button telephone might be worth something someday!
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Great thread.* It reminds me that the phrase "you can't take it with you" doesn't just apply to death... it applies to many places we want to go in life.
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1. Real estate costs to store it.*
2. Storage furnishings.*
3. The clutter factor.*

I think there is a #4 - the psychological cost. There is something opressive about having a bunch of stuff hanging over your head - knowing that you or someone is going to have to deal with it. It clutters your mental outlook as well as your physical space.

I'm keying in on this thread today because I am in the process of disposing of ten years worth of Architectural Record and other magazines that I've saved forever. My rationale was that I would look at them, study them, take inspiration from them when designing new buildings... that there is so much valuable information there....

That just never happened. They keep coming every month. I barely read the new ones much less the ten year old ones. It is a very freeing feeling to haul them to the door. I'm going to put out an e-mail on an Architects list and put them on Freecycle. If they're not claimed in a week, they will go to the "free" pile at the library.

Now on to the rest of the clutter!!

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I'm keying in on this thread today because I am in the process of disposing of ten years worth of Architectural Record and other magazines that I've saved forever.*
I'm going to put out an e-mail on an Architects list and put them on Freecycle.
A friend of mine in San Diego (an aviation-industry town from way back) prowls garage sales for old aviation magazines & resells them to eBay collectors. You might try looking up your issues there or at abebooks.
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A friend of mine in San Diego (an aviation-industry town from way back) prowls garage sales for old aviation magazines & resells them to eBay collectors.* You might try looking up your issues there or at abebooks.
Amazingly there are people paying real money for these things! Guess I will learn to become an e-bay seller.
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Well, I made it* with a little help from a PM from a fellow poster and some good suggestions on this thread.* *Free at last, free at last.* Now I can keep my eyes on my fries.
Congrats, OAP. Looking forward to hearing about your trip. When will you actually depart for the wild west?
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