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Old 09-01-2011, 03:17 PM   #61
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I would also seriously look at Australia and New Zealand... I think either of these would be a great place to stay from what I hear....
I visited Australia in the mid-90s and enjoyed my time there very much. But I seem to recall discussions with locals that led me to believe that immigrating there was complicated. I would definitely like to return there and spend more time than my first visit, which was only ten days.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:31 PM   #62
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Note that Charleston compares very favorably.

And for the OP's question about Charleston--I'm not sure what sort of diversity you mean, but if it means do we have a lot of Yankees around, yep, we do. They are alright, for the most part.
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I visited Australia in the mid-90s and enjoyed my time there very much. But I seem to recall discussions with locals that led me to believe that immigrating there was complicated. I would definitely like to return there and spend more time than my first visit, which was only ten days.
I have heard the same... but I also read of a retiree who would spend 6 month in Australia and 6 months in NZ.... rinse and repeat.. you do not have to immigrate to be able to stay 6 months out of a 12 month period (from what I understand)...

You can also throw in a few trips to other locales if you wish...
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I have heard the same... but I also read of a retiree who would spend 6 month in Australia and 6 months in NZ.... rinse and repeat.. you do not have to immigrate to be able to stay 6 months out of a 12 month period (from what I understand)...

You can also throw in a few trips to other locales if you wish...
Interesting, thanks for the tip. Not sure my wife would go for something like that, but she's all for an extended visit once I'm FIRE'd.
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I have to admit that except for the cost of living and the vast number of people I enjoyed my short time in London and NYC... both had very good cultural things to do, both had great public transportation, both had decent weather most of the time (did not like the winters, but if I was retired I would think about being a snow bird)...

Another place that I visited that seemed nice was Paris (but was never there in the winter).... and Madrid (again, not during winter)... I would think Paris is very very expensive, but Madrid might not be.... to bad I do not know the language... well, thinking about it, most of Europe is cold during the winter... so maybe not a great place...

I have heard that Italy is also a great place, but have not been there so can not comment...

I would also seriously look at Australia and New Zealand... I think either of these would be a great place to stay from what I hear....
Not discounting your suggestions at all, I've visited and enjoyed several you mention, but would the financial situation give you pause (ESP Spain & Italy)? Looks pretty desperate right now, though admittedly we have our own substantial issues...
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Not discounting your suggestions at all, I've visited and enjoyed several you mention, but would the financial situation give you pause (ESP Spain & Italy)? Looks pretty desperate right now, though admittedly we have our own substantial issues...

Not if I were retired.... I would not be expecting a lot from the gvmt besides the normal type of services that would probably not be cut as much... IOW, I would not be on their dole...

I just don't think I could be in a country where I could not speak the language... and I can not learn another language... that part of my brain died a long time ago and the other parts are not interested in taking up the slack...
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I visited Australia in the mid-90s and enjoyed my time there very much. But I seem to recall discussions with locals that led me to believe that immigrating there was complicated. I would definitely like to return there and spend more time than my first visit, which was only ten days.
I loved Australia and was ready to move when we visited. But things are changing like in the rest of the world. I know someone who went for a job and they are finding rents and real estate very expensive, and like most countries the social systems are under a tremendous amount of pressure. Things like health care, pensions, and problems associated with immigration that we hear about in Europe are also becoming problems there.

But to live near Surfers Paradise... it would be heavenly.
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I think out west for the most part walkable areas are going to be confined to small downtown areas. The availability of land caused cities to spread out. But some of the downtown areas are very nice. I've heard good things about Portland in that regard. Lots of smaller cities have similar areas, but you might end up living outside that area and have to drive to it to enjoy the walkable area.
This is true. As Texas has pointed out, the only truly walkable place in US is NYC, and maybe Boston/Cambridge MA, and SF. In other large cities people do go carless, but they mooch a lot.

I hate to drive, and I live in the most dense residential area in Seattle. Seattle is a fairly old (pre-car) city, but other than a few routes, bus or light rail service is awful and is getting cut as we speak. I can do daily chores, medical visits, clubs, bars and library walking, but if one is to have any friends outside of a few contiguous neighborhoods and downtown, plan to spend a great part of life on busses. And plan on having much of that not very pleasant from a social POV.

Also, I can't imagine anyone who has lived in a good climate coming to the NW for weather. If you are considering it, better be depression proof.

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Cost of living is horrendously expensive in Australia. Real Estate prices have gone thru the roof, you have to remember there has been no GFC in Australia. Getting a rental property is extremely competitive and in cities like Sydney and Melbourne you would probably pay well over $500 a week for a one bedroom in the city and that is not going to be a spectacular property.

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As to the living in Australia question, if you over are 45 you probably won't get a skills based visa, you would be looking at the retirement visa which is based on $s you can bring to the table.

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But to live near Surfers Paradise... it would be heavenly.
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Instead of going all the way over to Australia, you could choose to live in surfer's paradise.

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While South America fared well during the GFC and real estate has skyrocketed, You can still find rents at about half your budget (in major cities), good weather, cosmo atmosphere, European Cultural feel, easy for PT or resident visa's (No taxes) on retirement income, you can qualify if you have incomes of $1500.00 a month.
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We looked at Punta del Este in Uruguay. Great climate. Only one bad month (August is foggy and rainy). Same latitude as Capetown and Sidney. No hurricanes or earthquakes. And you can live in a new hirise condo on the beach or go north a few miles to Beach cottages.
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We looked at Punta del Este in Uruguay. Great climate. Only one bad month (August is foggy and rainy). Same latitude as Capetown and Sidney. No hurricanes or earthquakes. And you can live in a new hirise condo on the beach or go north a few miles to Beach cottages.
We are considering it as well as Montevideo! Medellin,Col has great transportation, Weather and reasonable cost of living as well, however no beaches!
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This is true. As Texas has pointed out, the only truly walkable place in US is NYC, and maybe Boston/Cambridge MA, and SF. In other large cities people do go carless, but they mooch a lot.

I hate to drive, and I live in the most dense residential area in Seattle. Seattle is a fairly old (pre-car) city, but other than a few routes, bus or light rail service is awful and is getting cut as we speak. I can do daily chores, medical visits, clubs, bars and library walking, but if one is to have any friends outside of a few contiguous neighborhoods and downtown, plan to spend a great part of life on busses. And plan on having much of that not very pleasant from a social POV.

Also, I can't imagine anyone who has lived in a good climate coming to the NW for weather. If you are considering it, better be depression proof.

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Having lived in and around Portland, OR for many years, I will agree that it offers many of the things that you're looking for (cultural opportunity, walk-ability, less severe winters etc.) However, the rain/ cool temps and overcast conditions for 9 months of the year overshadow all else for me. Be sure that you can handle that, before you jump in. Come visit for a few weeks during the rainy season. It's a beautiful place, but I will be moving shortly. I just love the sun a little too much.
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Having lived in and around Portland, OR for many years, I will agree that it offers many of the things that you're looking for (cultural opportunity, walk-ability, less severe winters etc.) However, the rain/ cool temps and overcast conditions for 9 months of the year overshadow all else for me. Be sure that you can handle that, before you jump in. Come visit for a few weeks during the rainy season. It's a beautiful place, but I will be moving shortly. I just love the sun a little too much.
I've read a lot of great things about Portland and know 1 person who lives there. But everything I've heard and read suggests the cost of living is pretty high, no?
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Attached link should answer a few questions about Portland. The overall cost of living is only slightly above average. Housing (purchasing a home) can be on the expensive side compared to many places.

Portland, Oregon (OR) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
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