Why do retirees move to Maine?

Orchidflower · 12-31-2007, 01:23 PM

Maybe I just am not getting it, but tons of retirees are slated to move to Maine from now and up to 2030. Doesn't Maine have one of the worst records of all the States when it comes to taxes? Other than it being a safe State with wonderful scenery and outdoor activities, why in the world would a retiree--for gosh sakes!--move to tax high Maine?

73ss454 · 12-31-2007, 01:30 PM

There's something about that ice fishing I guess. I'm staying in Florida myself.

youbet · 12-31-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Orchidflower

Other than it being a safe State with wonderful scenery and outdoor activities, why in the world would a retiree--for gosh sakes!--move to tax high Maine?

Ahhhh........ wonderful scenary and outdoor activities sound good to me. I'm staying where I'm at for family reasons, but if we could cut loose and move, an outdoor orientated state would be my choice. Many of these, including Maine, are not the most tax friendly. But, as long as I could afford it, I'd move to where I'd enjoy myself the most.

One of DW's long time girlfriends, a fellow retired teacher, moved to Maine two years ago. DW visits her for a week every summer and reports the area and her friends retirement lifestyle there are first class, very desireable.

Retire Soon · 12-31-2007, 01:55 PM

DW and I spent 2 weeks in Bethel, Maine a few summers ago. It is indeed very beautiful scenery. I can understand why someone would want to retire there, if they can afford the taxes. Winters, I understand would be very harsh. But then that keeps people from flocking there in large droves and ruining the environment.

retire@40 · 12-31-2007, 02:12 PM

I don't get that either. I would rather move to NH than Maine. Same kind of scenery without the taxes.

Orchidflower · 12-31-2007, 02:38 PM

Thanks, retire@40...sometimes I think I must be alone in this thinking. Why in the heck would someone pay those high tax rates of Maine when they can ice fish--and be closer to Boston if they are interested--in New Hampshire?
I keep wondering if there is some great tax benefit that I don't know about in Maine...is there? Are you people in Maine keeping it a secret from the rest of us? Fess up!

retire@40 · 12-31-2007, 03:11 PM

Being from MA, I go to Maine, NH, and/or Vermont every year. I like them all, but they do have a lot of scenic similarities (besides no Ocean in Vermont).

NH tends to be my favorite for various reasons. I may move there later in life.

audreyh1 · 12-31-2007, 08:20 PM

I thought there weren't that many retirees to Maine because the winters were so harsh.

Audrey

**Khan** · 12-31-2007, 08:42 PM

I would like to return to Maine; but only with an earthship type abode.

Orchidflower · 01-01-2008, 12:19 AM

Maine has retirees flocking there already, which is why I am asking why when it costs so much there taxwise.
According to the US Census Bureau, New England is to acquire a number of retirees also by 2030. But, in all honesty, New England will grow the least of all the regions, so what does that mean really?
Regardless, it seems that New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont are going to be acquiring the affluent $$$ retirees from New Jersey, Massachusetts, NY and other NE States.
And California, Texas and Florida are supposed to have half of the US population in those 3 States by 2030. (I gotta quit doing all this homework on the net.)

Jeb-NY · 01-01-2008, 06:48 AM

Cheap Lobster

We go most every Summer for a week or so. Haven't tried Winter yet, but then NY is no winner either.

Jeb

Orchidflower · 01-01-2008, 08:00 AM

Well, in all honesty, I could be had for a good lobster myself......mmmmm.

Dawg54 · 01-01-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by retire@40

I don't get that either. I would rather move to NH than Maine. Same kind of scenery without the taxes.

Golfed with a guy that used to live in NH. He loved it. He said during the summers the a/c was on maybe 10 days. Of course the winters are tough but he enjoyed winter sports so he didn't mind.

Retired to MS because he grew up here and cheap real estate.

**ziggy29** · 01-01-2008, 11:33 AM

Not every retiree is as sensitive to taxes as others. I could see a lot of wealthy folks from the Boston area falling in love with the scenery and the local culture.

A lot of CA retirees stay in state and move to the Sierra foothills and Lake Tahoe area, too, much for the same reason -- they vacationed there, they love it there and they want to retire there -- and they can afford it, especially if they cleared half a million or more from the sale of their previous home.

**bssc** · 01-01-2008, 11:39 AM

My Uncle retired there from CA because my Aunt was from there and wanted to move back.

yakers · 01-01-2008, 07:01 PM

I have loved visiting Maine & NH. But this part of the world, while physically beautiful, can be very provincial. My friends who moved there 20 years ago are still 'outsiders'. One of the few places in the US where you may need several generations to be truly considered a local.

**Khan** · 01-01-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yakers

I have loved visiting Maine & NH. But this part of the world, while physically beautiful, can be very provincial. My friends who moved there 20 years ago are still 'outsiders'. One of the few places in the US where you may need several generations to be truly considered a local.

My father (and many of his predecessors) was born and grew up there, so I'd probably have less trouble than most.

Orchidflower · 01-02-2008, 09:15 AM

Lets add Texas to that list of places where you are an outsider unless you grew up there. And, God forbid you are a Yankee, as you will be most unappreciated (to put it kindly).
And I was a Yankee from Chicago, so , when I got there, I talked fast like they do in Chicago. They hated me for it, and I knew it; so, I had to really work on slowing down my speech patterns when I was in a social situation. Ironically, fast speech and Chicago ways didn't seem to affect my selling at all. How do I know? Cause I was always #1 in any office (this is before I went into biz for myself). Go figure?
But socially was being a Yankee from Chicago a negative? You bet it was in Houston.
Also, where I grew up in Illinois on the Iowa border where I am staying now, I talk to gals in the locker room who have been here a few years only saying how hard it is to penetrate and gain some friends here. They like the area, but tell me they can't get any friends. I can see why as this is a post-industrial area that now has little in and out traffic, so everyone here almost grew up here. Me, I feel comfortable and like I fit in. Why? I have no idea unless it is because the area is familiar with me from my youth. But I do hear it here from new transplants over and over.
I think this goes on alot more than we think. California, NYC, Chicago, D.C. are areas I have spent time in and never felt like an outsider. Why? They have so much movement in and out that they are so much more sophisticated and cosmopolitan than most areas.
Just an opinion, and not saying I am right.
I know one thing: if I ever move back to a metro in Texas, I am telling them I am from Houston. Period. Saying you are from Chicago or any place up North rates you as an a**hole there. And anyone who has not picked up on that and lives in Texas is either blind or fooling themself.

**REWahoo** · 01-02-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Orchidflower

I know one thing: if I ever move back to a metro in Texas, I am telling them I am from Houston. Period. Saying you are from Chicago or any place up North rates you as an a**hole there. And anyone who has not picked up on that and lives in Texas is either blind or fooling themself.

Orchid, may I add your testimonial to my list of "Reasons you shouldn't move to Texas"?

**Want2retire** · 01-02-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Orchidflower

I know one thing: if I ever move back to a metro in Texas, I am telling them I am from Houston. Period. Saying you are from Chicago or any place up North rates you as an a**hole there. And anyone who has not picked up on that and lives in Texas is either blind or fooling themself.

When I travel to Houston for work, I don't even tell the cabbies that I'm from Louisiana!! Houstonians don't think much of Katrina evacuees, and probably for good reason.

12-31-2007, 02:12 PM	#5
retire@40 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,597	I don't get that either. I would rather move to NH than Maine. Same kind of scenery without the taxes. __________________ No man is free who is not master of himself. --- Epictetus Enjoy Yourself (It's Later Than You Think). --- Guy Lombardo

12-31-2007, 03:11 PM	#7
retire@40 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,597	Being from MA, I go to Maine, NH, and/or Vermont every year. I like them all, but they do have a lot of scenic similarities (besides no Ocean in Vermont). NH tends to be my favorite for various reasons. I may move there later in life. __________________ No man is free who is not master of himself. --- Epictetus Enjoy Yourself (It's Later Than You Think). --- Guy Lombardo

12-31-2007, 08:42 PM	#9
Khan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater Dayton area Posts: 3,411	I would like to return to Maine; but only with an earthship type abode. __________________ "Candle wax and red wine can do interesting things to a keyboard."

01-01-2008, 11:33 AM	#14
ziggy29 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,087	Not every retiree is as sensitive to taxes as others. I could see a lot of wealthy folks from the Boston area falling in love with the scenery and the local culture. A lot of CA retirees stay in state and move to the Sierra foothills and Lake Tahoe area, too, much for the same reason -- they vacationed there, they love it there and they want to retire there -- and they can afford it, especially if they cleared half a million or more from the sale of their previous home. __________________ FIRE Clock: 11:27 PM. FIREd at midnight but very subject to change.... waiting for the government to privatize the gains and socialize my losses in my 401K...

01-01-2008, 11:39 AM	#15
bssc Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,907	My Uncle retired there from CA because my Aunt was from there and wanted to move back. __________________ Angels danced on the day that you were born.

12-31-2007, 01:23 PM	#1
Orchidflower Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Il-Ia. border Posts: 1,027	Why do retirees move to Maine? Maybe I just am not getting it, but tons of retirees are slated to move to Maine from now and up to 2030. Doesn't Maine have one of the worst records of all the States when it comes to taxes? Other than it being a safe State with wonderful scenery and outdoor activities, why in the world would a retiree--for gosh sakes!--move to tax high Maine?

12-31-2007, 01:30 PM	#2
73ss454 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,882	There's something about that ice fishing I guess. I'm staying in Florida myself.

12-31-2007, 01:55 PM	#4
Retire Soon Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 544	DW and I spent 2 weeks in Bethel, Maine a few summers ago. It is indeed very beautiful scenery. I can understand why someone would want to retire there, if they can afford the taxes. Winters, I understand would be very harsh. But then that keeps people from flocking there in large droves and ruining the environment.

12-31-2007, 02:38 PM	#6
Orchidflower Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Il-Ia. border Posts: 1,027	Thanks, retire@40...sometimes I think I must be alone in this thinking. Why in the heck would someone pay those high tax rates of Maine when they can ice fish--and be closer to Boston if they are interested--in New Hampshire? I keep wondering if there is some great tax benefit that I don't know about in Maine...is there? Are you people in Maine keeping it a secret from the rest of us? Fess up!

12-31-2007, 08:20 PM	#8
audreyh1 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,222	I thought there weren't that many retirees to Maine because the winters were so harsh. Audrey

01-01-2008, 12:19 AM	#10
Orchidflower Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Il-Ia. border Posts: 1,027	Maine has retirees flocking there already, which is why I am asking why when it costs so much there taxwise. According to the US Census Bureau, New England is to acquire a number of retirees also by 2030. But, in all honesty, New England will grow the least of all the regions, so what does that mean really? Regardless, it seems that New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont are going to be acquiring the affluent $$$ retirees from New Jersey, Massachusetts, NY and other NE States. And California, Texas and Florida are supposed to have half of the US population in those 3 States by 2030. (I gotta quit doing all this homework on the net.)

01-01-2008, 06:48 AM	#11
Jeb-NY Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 239	Cheap Lobster We go most every Summer for a week or so. Haven't tried Winter yet, but then NY is no winner either. Jeb

01-01-2008, 08:00 AM	#12
Orchidflower Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Il-Ia. border Posts: 1,027	Well, in all honesty, I could be had for a good lobster myself......mmmmm.

01-01-2008, 07:01 PM	#16
yakers Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,621	I have loved visiting Maine & NH. But this part of the world, while physically beautiful, can be very provincial. My friends who moved there 20 years ago are still 'outsiders'. One of the few places in the US where you may need several generations to be truly considered a local. __________________ A slave is someone who waits for someone else to free them

01-02-2008, 09:15 AM	#18
Orchidflower Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Il-Ia. border Posts: 1,027	Lets add Texas to that list of places where you are an outsider unless you grew up there. And, God forbid you are a Yankee, as you will be most unappreciated (to put it kindly). And I was a Yankee from Chicago, so , when I got there, I talked fast like they do in Chicago. They hated me for it, and I knew it; so, I had to really work on slowing down my speech patterns when I was in a social situation. Ironically, fast speech and Chicago ways didn't seem to affect my selling at all. How do I know? Cause I was always #1 in any office (this is before I went into biz for myself). Go figure? But socially was being a Yankee from Chicago a negative? You bet it was in Houston. Also, where I grew up in Illinois on the Iowa border where I am staying now, I talk to gals in the locker room who have been here a few years only saying how hard it is to penetrate and gain some friends here. They like the area, but tell me they can't get any friends. I can see why as this is a post-industrial area that now has little in and out traffic, so everyone here almost grew up here. Me, I feel comfortable and like I fit in. Why? I have no idea unless it is because the area is familiar with me from my youth. But I do hear it here from new transplants over and over. I think this goes on alot more than we think. California, NYC, Chicago, D.C. are areas I have spent time in and never felt like an outsider. Why? They have so much movement in and out that they are so much more sophisticated and cosmopolitan than most areas. Just an opinion, and not saying I am right. I know one thing: if I ever move back to a metro in Texas, I am telling them I am from Houston. Period. Saying you are from Chicago or any place up North rates you as an a**hole there. And anyone who has not picked up on that and lives in Texas is either blind or fooling themself.

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