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Old 03-26-2010, 08:18 AM   #321
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About those places where you could park your van and sleep - - would you be traveling alone? If so, would you be safe enough in these places? I am thinking of rest stop rape/murder/mutialations/etc that one reads about from time to time.. I think RV parks are probably very safe.
For more than a decade I've heard similar fears from my rural dwelling relatives about living in NYC. Meanwhile, I've never been a victim of crime here whereas some of them have experienced break-ins.

When I traveled to Morocco the most often comment I heard from friends and relatives was "Did you see the movie Babel" (where a tourist gets shot).

Everyone is always afraid of what they aren't familiar with. But 99.9% of people are good, decent and mean you no harm. You can run into the other .1% anywhere. That isn't to say you shouldn't take prudent precautions. But I'd hate to lock myself away in a safe room for fear of the unknown.
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For more than a decade I've heard similar fears from my rural dwelling relatives about living in NYC. Meanwhile, I've never been a victim of crime here whereas some of them have experienced break-ins.

When I traveled to Morocco the most often comment I heard from friends and relatives was "Did you see the movie Babel" (where a tourist gets shot).

Everyone is always afraid of what they aren't familiar with. But 99.9% of people are good, decent and mean you no harm. You can run into the other .1% anywhere. That isn't to say you shouldn't take prudent precautions. But I'd hate to lock myself away in a safe room for fear of the unknown.
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I think that prudent precautions would include a single woman alone parking her van in locations that she is pretty sure are safe, as opposed to those that she thinks actually probably aren't all that safe. Call me nuts.
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I think that prudent precautions would include a single woman alone parking her van in locations that she is pretty sure are safe, as opposed to those that she thinks actually probably aren't all that safe. Call me nuts.
This isn't a comment directed at you specifically . . .

But it is my experience that plenty of people think anywhere outside the area that they are familiar with is "unsafe". And that "safe" area tends to shrink as people get older.
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Anyway, about the cost of a used RV, my recent shopping experience is that one can get a clean small travel trailer for around $10K or less. For a used class C motorhome, with a budget of $20-25K, one gets a lot to choose from. Surely, that's less than a new Venza. :-)

Yes ,but those Venza"s are pretty big so they could be dual purpose . Car by day . Sleeping place by night . Maybe W2R is secretly getting into camping ?
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I think that prudent precautions would include a single woman alone parking her van in locations that she is pretty sure are safe, as opposed to those that she thinks actually probably aren't all that safe. Call me nuts.
I couldn't agree more. Anytime that little voice says uh oh, I listen and leave. Some hotels are pretty dodgey too.
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I think that prudent precautions would include a single woman alone parking her van in locations that she is pretty sure are safe, as opposed to those that she thinks actually probably aren't all that safe. Call me nuts.
W2R, if you had one of these, it's a pretty safe bet that most folks would leave you alone. And, you could park overnight in the parking lot of any biker bar in the country! (like Walmart, but with different amenities...) Call you nuts?
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W2R, if you had one of these, it's a pretty safe bet that most folks would leave you alone. And, you could park overnight in the parking lot of any biker bar in the country! (like Walmart, but with different amenities...) Call you nuts?
But could I live with myself? I might drink drain cleaner if I had to face THAT every morning.
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But could I live with myself? I might drink drain cleaner if I had to face THAT every morning.
No drain cleaner- it reacts with the crystal meth...you only need your toothbrush...
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Yes ,but those Venza"s are pretty big so they could be dual purpose. Car by day. Sleeping place by night. Maybe W2R is secretly getting into camping ?
I don't know DW2RV, er, W2R, but I don't think she is planning on doing that.

I wouldn't do that either, security reasons aside. My creaky back needs a better bed, and midnight trips to the restroom would be a chore.

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W2R, if you had one of these, it's a pretty safe bet that most folks would leave you alone. And, you could park overnight in the parking lot of any biker bar in the country! (like Walmart, but with different amenities...) Call you nuts?
Can you suggest some mural or graphics for my RV, something with a mean 'tude so people wouldn't want to mess with me? Another benefit would be so that when I pull into a camping site, they (these rich cats with view-blocking class As) would quietly leave so I can have the whole area to myself, without me having to haul out my 1KW audio amplifier?

PS. ARGGH! I forgot that another RV'er with a similar mean RV might just pull up to befriend me.
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Can you suggest some mural or graphics for my RV, something with a mean 'tude so people wouldn't want to mess with me? Another benefit would be so that when I pull into a camping site, they (these rich cats with view-blocking class As) would quietly leave so I can have the whole area to myself, without me having to haul out my 1KW audio amplifier?

This might do the trick !
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I've never RV'd and probably never will. The reasons are simple:
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b) I would be a terrible passenger. I am way too hyper to sit still for long drives.
1) Sure, it is affordable if you don't insist on getting a spanking new one.
2) You can demand to be a driver. Audrey said she is the driver because her husband does not want to. In my case, my wife always prefers to be the passenger. Works out fine for me!

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1) Sure, it is affordable if you don't insist on getting a spanking new one.
2) You can demand to be a driver. Audrey said she is the driver because her husband does not want to. In my case, my wife always prefers to be the passenger. Works out fine for me!

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I used to drive a 12 passenger van for the DAV. Backing that puppy up in tight situations was more than enough for me.
My powerboat is only an 18' open bow runabout. No rearview mirrors required when floating. I have gotten pretty good at maneuvering the trailer in reverse for launch/retrieval ops. I usually get it right on the second try.
I think I shall continue to live vicariously through all you RV roadsters.
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I'm glad I'm the big rig driver, because my husband is so darn good at giving back up directions and really looking out for the rig when we are getting into a site. Plus - when we pull into the truck stop, it's so convenient for him to hop out of the passenger seat to do the fuel fill up.

Sometimes I see folks backing into a site with the spouse outside kind of flapping vaguely or not even really spotting or walking around the rig to check. Maybe I just don't understand their system but I'm just so glad I'm not the one trying to back it under those conditions.

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P.S. My husband really hates to drive - anything - unless we are way out in the boonies.
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I have gotten pretty good at maneuvering the trailer in reverse for launch/retrieval ops. I usually get it right on the second try.
I think I shall continue to live vicariously through all you RV roadsters.
Hey - look at that. You already have all the training needed to drive and back an RV trailer. Backing a motorhome is a piece of cake compared to backing any kind of trailer.

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Sometimes I see folks backing into a site with the spouse outside kind of flapping vaguely or not even really spotting or walking around the rig to check. Maybe I just don't understand their system but I'm just so glad I'm not the one trying to back it under those conditions.

It's taken awhile, but DW has finally stopped over-signalling when I'm backing up. I don't need someone waving "come on, come on". I'm already doing that. I need her to tell me stop, or point in the direction she wants the rear of the RV to go. As the driver, I'll figure out how to do that. And, I usually stop and get out several times when backing. Once in a while, we nail it first time, but it usually takes some maneuvering to get located close to where we planned.

I prefer her direction to the guy the park sends over to make sure I don't damage their equipment.
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It is always interesting to hear how others handle the driving. In our case DW does all the backing up and I do all the driving forward.. Something we got into the habit of with our first trailer and kept doing it up to our Class A. We really have it down to a science we can back out of just about anywhere with just hand signals. I have to agree with audreyh1, the class A is much easier to back up than any of the trailers were.
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I prefer her direction to the guy the park sends over to make sure I don't damage their equipment.
Yeah, like the lady (owner?) who wouldn't let me back in without her directing me... I had to get out walk back and explain to her that if she couldn't see me in the mirror(s), I couldn't see her. That was some fun... and this was a small 23' van.
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Yeah, like the lady (owner?) who wouldn't let me back in without her directing me... I had to get out walk back and explain to her that if she couldn't see me in the mirror(s), I couldn't see her. That was some fun... and this was a small 23' van.

In travel mode, we are 63 feet long.
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We (I) are thinking about renting an RV to go visit my folks down south over spring break. I've always wanted to do this, and my boys are totally psyched. My wife, however, is less than enthusiastic. She is a bit of a clean freak and likes nice accomodations. I did a quick search and found a place - Cruise America - that seems reputable and is close by. I went out and looked a couple over yesterday. They are a couple years old and plain. About 30 feet long and built over a pickup truck. Remind me of a low-end motel room. Target market seems to be a group of guys heading over to state for football weekend, or Nascar. Very reasonable price. OK for me and the boys, I think, but I'm nervous that the wife and daughter will balk.

I briefly looked more, and saw some that were a few feet longer, and looked nicer - not built over a pick-up but more like a bus, and nicer furnishings.

Anyway, I saw this thread and thought I'd throw my situation out for any advice or insight. I'm in Pittsburgh and will go to South Carolina and back.

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In travel mode, we are 63 feet long.
Do you back up all 63 feet?

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