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Old 03-17-2010, 01:41 PM   #201
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Just replaced my Prius with a Scion xD, stick shift, massive 1.8L engine. Here is what it looks like.
Wow. Your ESR date approaches and you go nuts with a wild set of wheels!

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What kind of pickup are you towing?
Nothing as new and exotic as yours. I'm towing a mussel car - you know, one that only cost a few clams...

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Old 03-17-2010, 01:46 PM   #202
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Wow. Your ESR date approaches and you go nuts with a wild set of wheels!
Yeah, that Corolla engine drives the babes crazy. Plus it has that really high quality plastic all over the cockpit.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:53 PM   #203
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Gone4Good makes a good point about depressing. I find the rows of RV's parked next to each other even more depressing. But like others have said it all depends on the location and what their is to do. Some RV parks and Hotels are pretty spectacular, like anything you have to find the diamonds in the rough. My main point is based on the experience that I have with multiple friends who have purchased RV's and Campers. At first they used them and loved them, then when the price of fuel hit +$3/gal., they became expensive sheds. Now they are all trying to get rid of them, on craigs list, @ huge discounts from what they paid.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:55 PM   #204
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I don't see anyone on this thread implying that owning an RV is a cheaper way to travel. On the contrary, a search of the forum will find a number of threads where those of us who own RV's clearly say the cost is higher than going the more traditional car and hotel route.

In those same threads you'll also see questions such as: Have you checked under that Comfort Inn mattress for bed bugs? Dared to shine a UV light on the bedspread or carpet? Are you certain those sheets were changed? Do you know what who slept in that bed last night?

Just askin'....
On the road this week- lunch today was a cheeseburger from room service- when I opend the little single-serving jar of mustard, there was some missing... and a little ketchup streak where someone had dipped a used knife into it. Evidently someone else had already used the jar... yuck. I initially didn't pay attention to the lack of an overwrap- which upon subsequent evaluation, the ketchup jar also was missing. This was a **** hotel, major international chain, not a local roach motel... The manager was horrified when I showed her, but it doesn't change the fact that they were recycling condiments.

My own mustard jar in a motorhome? priceless...
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:17 PM   #205
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Yeah, that Corolla engine drives the LBYM babes crazy. Plus it has that really high quality plastic all over the cockpit.
...fixed that for you.
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:29 PM   #206
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I am a little surprised that folks haven't talked more about camaraderie at RV parks. We have never RV'ed, but we did cruise on a sailboat, and I can say without doubt that the best part of the whole experience was the great folks we met. People were much more open about striking up conversations with total strangers than I have seen anywhere else. It was quite acceptable to dinghey up to an anchored boat, knock on the hull, and ask the crew to cocktails.

I imagine that cocktail hour in an RV park is similar.
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I find the rows of RV's parked next to each other even more depressing.
I sit, tonight, in a (rather large) RV Park in Salina KS and there are perhaps four other RVs set up here.

I am curious about your analogy, however. What would be depressing about a row of houses compared to, say, sitting for days at the Swimming Pool.

Granted, I don't spend more than a night in any RV Park but... I don't see much of people sitting around their RVs except in groups of very loud happy people sharing dinner (groups meaning 10 or more). I have yet to see that in a motel/hotel situation. (Yeah, I am ignoring the Hotel Bar -- cause that doesn't really count does it. (I, BTW, have been a "traveler" for forty some years... the great majority of that time using motel/hotels.)

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What would be depressing about a row of houses .
They never get to go anywhere?
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Just replaced my Prius with a Scion xD, stick shift, massive 1.8L engine. Here is what it looks like.

Basic transportation, cheap, and more than enough for me to use as an ESR runabout. Zero to 60 by Thursday.

What kind of pickup are you towing?
Congratulations on finding a new car that you like and fits your needs! It sounds great.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:31 PM   #210
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I am a little surprised that folks haven't talked more about camaraderie at RV parks. We have never RV'ed, but we did cruise on a sailboat, and I can say without doubt that the best part of the whole experience was the great folks we met. People were much more open about striking up conversations with total strangers than I have seen anywhere else.
<In my best Phil Hartman imitation of Ed Mcmahon ....> "Yes, sir! You are correct, sir!"

Take an evening stroll around an RV park and you'll have ample opportunity to strike up a conversation with a number of fellow RV types. Not sure what there is about the lifestyle that creates a more open and relaxed atmosphere, but it definitely exists. It may be the simple fact that if you run across someone you can't stand you'd prefer not to socialize with ever again, no problem. Your house is on wheels so you can have new neighbors tomorrow!
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They never get to go anywhere?
Well, there I go again... lousy communication. I meant houses as in Rvs. (Which is what they really are... the kind that go where ever needed.)
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well i for one am enjoying this thread as I too am about to join the ranks of RV owners as I am slowly shedding my possessions for the future lifestyle that fulltiming in an RV will bring me... I admit I worry about finding the right spots to stay but it isn't much unlike buying a house and ending up in a crappy neighborhood... only it will be much easier to move
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IndependentPoor makes a valid point regarding camaraderie. I tent camp with my family and their is a friendly feeling about most of the parks and marina's, which is lacking in a hotel or rental situation. My wife and I are shedding our possessions as well and really are enjoying the whole simplifying our life gig. Again - I suppose it comes down to location, location, location.
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Rich, did you find a Scion xD in a color matching your motor home or are you going to have to go with an after-market paint job?
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Rich, did you find a Scion xD in a color matching your motor home or are you going to have to go with an after-market paint job?
That's even funnier than you think: DW felt strongly that the TOAD should color-coordinate with the RV. We joked about it because I had no comprehension of why that was important or even occurred to her.

Guess who won. The car is black with a faint metalic pattern, the RV is black, brown and tan.

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Hey - your DW caught on to the essentials of towing quickly!

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P.S. We never painted ours to match the RV swirls, but the base color matches (sort of). At least it doesn't clash.
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Younger RVers

We rented an RV for a vacation last year, and loved it so much we bought our own rig. We are younger (mid 40s) and have always enjoyed camping and the outdoors and travel in general, but recent health issues have made traveling by air difficult. RVing is a great fit for our lifestlye. We almost always stay in state or county parks, occasionally a private park if it passes the sniff test RV Park Reviews :: Home.

We found a 1998 Class C that needed some work but fit our budget and we loved the floorplan. We paid cash at a wholesale dealer. Over the months, with repairs and some upgrades, we have spent $21K, already traveled 5K miles and enjoyed a month of the most stress-free travel we've ever experienced. We are taking it out again for the Easter holiday.

Vacationing with the dog and being able to have a safe haven if we need a respite make the costs worth while for us, and it can be done inexpensively if you are handy.

Here is a picture of our big girl "Lucille":
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We rented an RV for a vacation last year, and loved it so much we bought our own rig. We are younger (mid 40s) and have always enjoyed camping and the outdoors and travel in general, but recent health issues have made traveling by air difficult. RVing is a great fit for our lifestlye. We almost always stay in state or county parks, occasionally a private park if it passes the sniff test RV Park Reviews :: Home.
A lot of folks here have questions about the practicality and logistics of renting an RV to try out the lifestyle/traveling experience. I bet they would appreciate it if you shared more about what your initial experience was like and how you rented the RV. It would be worth a new thread in this same forum.

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Anyway, reading full-time RV'er bloggers, I found so many interesting stories. The most captivating stories are from those that write well, have unconventional living arrangements and are able to put their thoughts down in a lucid prose. I started reading these as a guide to RV traveling, but then got much more interested in their philosophical viewpoints.

would you mind sharing some of your favorite RV blogs?
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It's typical.

As Audrey and Rich said, the depreciation slope on a motor home is very steep the first few years. The Excel screen shot I attached below is an average of what happens to the value over a 20 year period.

I have no idea how lenders policies may have changed recently, but the guy I purchased ours from left his paperwork in the glove compartment . He had a 15 year note, and based on his monthly payment it was a straight line amortization loan. The MH was six years old at the time I bought it and paid 50% of his original purchase price.

Yep, he was definitely underwater.
Im not sure Im reading this chart correctly. Does it mean that I could buy a 6 year old RV, travel the country for a year and then sell it and only lose $2500-$3000 from what I originally paid (assuming its well maintained)
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