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Old 09-05-2010, 03:45 PM   #161
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I don't use a kindle to read ebooks. In the past I have used an ebook reader called a hiebook (came out in 2000, don't think it is sold anymore) was great until it took a 1 foot drop and the screen broke very disappointing. I have also used a palm pilot(didn't care for the software at the time). I have used multiple versions of pocket pc's and had no real issue except for battery life(which was getting alot better). Lately I have start using my ipod touch which is handy like the pocket pc's, you can download apps to directly access you B&N library, kindle and a few other ebook providers among other applications. I have also used a netbook, laptop and desktop computer which are all fine too.
In the end it really matters for battery life, weight and readability. I have found that most devices don't seem to have a long enough battery life for me(I will often find myself reading for 12-14 hours straight on my weekends if the book is good). The weight can be an issue since in certain position you will get tired more easily from holding the reader. Oh and sunlight readability is another issue, if the sun hits the screen on whether you can read it or not.

I even use alot of audiobooks.
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My son pre-ordered the new Kindle and it arrived today. He got the one with WiFi and he loves it. I got a chance to handle it and I'm impressed.
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Price for ebooks.

My understanding is that Amazon has tried very hard to establish $9.99 as the top price to pay for an ebook. This intuitively feels like the right price to me, the author gets a buck or two, as does the publish/editor and Amazon gets probably $3. I suspect that on per book basis everybody makes more than they do in the dead tree model.

At $10 I figure I am saving a $4-$5 over a typical hard book price (helps me rationalize the purchase). It kinda of bothers me that I can often get a paperback from Amazon for $7 or $8 vs $9.99 for an Ebook (and even a rare hardbook Sh*t my dad says) but the convenience is worth something.

However, I noticed that on the NY Time best seller list that perhaps half of the books were priced at $12.99 and even a few of my favorite sci fi books had Kindle prices at $15, which is only a buck or two below the hardcover version.

I decided that for me I am drawing the line at $9.99 for an ebook. I've written to Random House and told them I'll buy lots of ebooks at $9.99 and none at $10.

Anybody else feel similarly?
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I decided that for me I am drawing the line at $9.99 for an ebook. I've written to Random House and told them I'll buy lots of ebooks at $9.99 and none at $10.

Anybody else feel similarly?

I feel that way . The only books that I buy that cost more are Best sellers that have the "Lend Me "feature . That way I feel it brings my cost down to a reasonable amount . What I do not like is that unlike a regular book that after you buy a book you own and can lend it or sell it as I used to do . So the Publishers have to be rolling in money with the ebooks and I truly hope an e book war starts to drive down prices .
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I don't use a kindle to read ebooks. In the past I have used an ebook reader called a hiebook (came out in 2000, don't think it is sold anymore) was great until it took a 1 foot drop and the screen broke very disappointing. I have also used a palm pilot(didn't care for the software at the time). I have used multiple versions of pocket pc's and had no real issue except for battery life(which was getting alot better). Lately I have start using my ipod touch which is handy like the pocket pc's, you can download apps to directly access you B&N library, kindle and a few other ebook providers among other applications. I have also used a netbook, laptop and desktop computer which are all fine too.
In the end it really matters for battery life, weight and readability. I have found that most devices don't seem to have a long enough battery life for me(I will often find myself reading for 12-14 hours straight on my weekends if the book is good). The weight can be an issue since in certain position you will get tired more easily from holding the reader. Oh and sunlight readability is another issue, if the sun hits the screen on whether you can read it or not.

I even use alot of audiobooks.
Then the Kindle should fit your needs. The new Kindle 3 (only $139.00) has a 30 hour battery life or up to a month with wireless turned off. It is the lightest of all readers, has the best screen, fantastic customer service, and the largest available library on Amazon. I have had my new Kindle since the 27th of August, and read about 3 hours a day, and have not had to recharge it once. My cost bases for each book is very low, as I get many free books, some for .99 up to $2.99, and only a few in the $7.99 to $9.00 for new releases that I just have to have. Go over to Kindle Community forum, and just take a look at what others say, and all the free or low cost books.
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I have the Barnes & Noble nook so if anyone who has one wants to read "The Big Short " . PM me as I can lend it out once and it's not appealing to my usual borrowers .
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I have the Barnes & Noble nook so if anyone who has one wants to read "The Big Short " . PM me as I can lend it out once and it's not appealing to my usual borrowers .
Interesting that the Big Short was the first book I purchased for my Kindle.
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Interesting move by Amazon to sell the Kindle in even more traditional retail locations:

Kindle Coming to Best Buy - Yahoo! News

I predict an eChristmas gift avalanche.
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One use for my Kindle that I really enjoy is to buy a copy of the New York Times on a Sunday for 99 cents and take it to a coffee shop to laze away the morning. It's not the whole paper, but when I've subscribed to the print version, I've always felt guilty recycling it partially unread the next Saturday.
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Received my Kindle (Next Generation) yesterday. After I figured out how to convert PDF files to Kindle-readable files, I was in business. I already have a couple of dozen books on my Kindle, most in Spanish that I converted from downloaded (free) PDF files.
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I've been thinking of trying to track down a membership in some other library systems that have a richer collection of e-books. I'd be willing to pay for membership in order to have access to borrow from a larger collection if some other library had options for non-residents. If any one knows of such a library, I'd love to hear about it.

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I have read that the Philadelphia Free Library has a good selection. The annual fee for non-residents is $15.00. I have sent my $$$ and am waiting on my card.
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I have read that the Philadelphia Free Library has a good selection. The annual fee for non-residents is $15.00. I have sent my $$$ and am waiting on my card.
Thanks for the tip, Archer! Please come back and let us know what you think of their e-book collection once you have your card and have explored it.

I have enjoyed borrowing e-books from my own city's library, but the collection is small at this point. I was impressed with how totally seamless it was to borrow the e-books. The process was incredibly simple, the amount of time left until my book's expiration was obvious on both the computer and on my reader, and "returning" my book was a simple click. Gotta love it!!

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My local library (Gwinnett County in GA) started offering e-books last month.
Kindle is not on a list of supported readers, but Nook is.
Since I don't have a dedicated reader I use Adobe Digital Editions on my laptop.
For now selection is slim, I counted 700 titles, two copies each. I hope it will get better.
I looked at the Philly library ebooks site and they have 3724 titles available.
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Kindle is not on a list of supported readers, but Nook is.
Amazon has been criticized for not supporting the epub format, which I've heard is the format commonly used by libraries.
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Amazon has been criticized for not supporting the epub format, which I've heard is the format commonly used by libraries.
Right - that's one thing that scares me off of the Kindle - the proprietary format.
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Anybody else feel similarly?
I'm still trying to decide whether I need to abandon my current library habits.

If I can put my name on a "hot pick" list and get a new release within a few months for free, admittedly with only a week to read it and no renewals, then I'm not sure there's any reason to buy an e-reader or pay for e-books.

However libraries could hypothetically save a lot of state funds and maybe even bring in a little revenue by acquiring the lending rights to new releases instead of buying a couple crates of hardbacks. The "e-hot-pick" could go out to say 100 readers for up to one week. As soon as one reader's week expires it disappears from their e-reader, the next reader gets some sort of electronic notification, and their hardware downloads it for one week.

I'd pay 99 cents for the convenience of skipping two trips to the library. The library doesn't have to manually handle a couple more crates of books, and the author's book gets out there a lot faster in higher volume.
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Right - that's one thing that scares me off of the Kindle - the proprietary format.
Amazon's primary business is selling books. They really do not care what device you read them on. They just want you to buy the book from them. This explain why they are not really interested in easily allowing content that is not purchased from them on the Kindle.

There are ways around this however. You can use Caliber to convert a book to a format that Kindle supports and then transfer it the device.
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I have successfully converted PDF files to .mobi files, which Kindle supports, using Mobipocket Creator, which you can download for free. It appears that it also can convert HTML, MS Word, and text documents to the .mobi format. I have purchased 3 or 4 books from Amazon for reading on my Kindle, but the other 20 or so books I have on the Kindle are ones that I downloaded for free and, when necessary, converted to the Kindle format.

I have, however, found books that I'd like to read on Kindle that don't appear to be available in Kindle format. I might just have to resort to a paper book (gasp!) at some point.
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Didn't get a chance to read through all the post so hope this hasn't been asked/answered. Can you rent e-books like you do a movie? Maybe it would expire after 30-90 days. Never was one to read books more than once so having it disappear after reading is fine with me.
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Rental not yet available - maybe someone will try to develop that market. You can only convert unprotected books to Kindle format - if they are copy protected, you are out of luck.

E-Pub format and the ability to use library books is what sold me on my Nook. I have rarely purchased books. In California, all libraries offer library cards to state residents - I stop in all large cities and request cards so tha I have a large selection of books tochoose from, all for free. And the best part, no trips to the library - just put your name on the waiting list and they send you anemail when the book is available for download.
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