Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-04-2015, 03:41 PM   #21
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,423
Actually one of the ideas is that you wouldn't own cars, that it'll be on demand car share where you order the car with your phone on an as needed basis.
__________________

__________________
explanade is online now   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 05-04-2015, 04:18 PM   #22
Moderator Emeritus
aja8888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 7,165
Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1 View Post
I'd love to have my car come pick me up at the airport!!! We can only dream!!!

That's a great one!
That reality would benefit my DW who does that trip now!
__________________

__________________
......."Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face." -- philosopher Mike Tyson.
aja8888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2015, 07:49 PM   #23
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 19,431
Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
Actually one of the ideas is that you wouldn't own cars, that it'll be on demand car share where you order the car with your phone on an as needed basis.
Exactly. Not everyone is enamored with a car enough to care to have his or her own.

Imagine how robot cars would kill off so many existing businesses. We would need a lot fewer cars. For example, retirees do not need to have a couple of cars sitting unused most of the time in their garage. Car makers will sell fewer. The enhanced usage of shared robot cars means less auto production, fewer dealership, service garages, insurance agencies, etc...

By the way, the strict GPS function, which is to provide 3D position (latitude/longitude/altitude), is now comprised in a single GPS receiver chip, worth a few bucks each in production quantities. It's the least problem, whether technical or cost-wise, in the making of a robot car. And I am not holding my breath for a true robot car, for other technical reasons that I outlined in a recent post on another thread.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that can happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky
NW-Bound is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2015, 08:01 PM   #24
Moderator
Sarah in SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 13,456
Wow, I just use my phone for navigation. I'd never buy a standalone model.

We used a separate Spot brand device for tracking on our around-the-world trip, but it was primarily to keep our website updated and send a message each day to the folks back home to assure them we weren't languishing in some Godforsakistan prison.

And you can just ask Google about traffic or whatever and it pulls it right up.
__________________
“One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching.”
Gerard Arthur Way

Sarah in SC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2015, 08:30 PM   #25
Moderator
Alan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Eee Bah Gum
Posts: 21,109
Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
I use Google Maps on iPhone and iPad not only for driving directions but also walking around a city I'm visiting.

No more paper maps to fold and unfold.

That includes subway maps as I use an iPhone app to search bus and subway options. Been using Citymapper in Paris and London. Very useful for bus maps, which aren't always handy. Buses are often better options than subways.
This is our first trip using Google Maps on an iPhone (6). The screen is actually bigger than our old Garmin plus much easier to zoom in and out etc. I'm really impressed at the real time updates on traffic congestion and with 2 of us in the car it is really helpful to have the navigator handling the maps and directions. It also has a bluetooth connection so directions come through the car's sound system, quieting any music as needed.

We've also been using it for walking around the streets of new cities. My iphone has now replaced my old cell phone, my iPod Classic, my camera, my Garmin car GPS and my Garmin hiking GPS, as it has all the detailed contour maps I need.
__________________
Retired in Jan, 2010 at 55, moved to England in May 2016
Now it's adventure before dementia
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2015, 08:34 PM   #26
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
NW-Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 19,431
I have a standalone Garmin, bought 8 years ago when GPS was not just a simple function of the smartphone as it is now. It is still good for fishing or hiking in the woods as it is waterproof and even floats, but I have not used it much recently.

I recently could not resist the trend anymore, and had to get wireless data in order to use the Gasbuddy app along with Google map on an iPhone. The money I save by locating the local gas station with the lowest price to fill up my gas-guzzling motorhome more than pays for the higher subscription charge.
__________________
"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that can happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky
NW-Bound is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 12:00 AM   #27
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,423
I still have a Garmin. Last time I updated maps it took several hours and attempts.

Battery life is poor and has a very sluggish UI. Plus I had to pack a beanbag mount when taking on overseas trips.

iPhone can go on vent clip mount which is tiny, because phones are thin.

I would say however that the Garmin generally does a better job of guidance at multi lane exchanges.

But for searching for POIs both before and during trips, it's no contest.

Of course you need data but t mobile simple choice provides roaming data.
__________________
explanade is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 06:50 AM   #28
Full time employment: Posting here.
GalaxyBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The Beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains
Posts: 853
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan View Post
This is our first trip using Google Maps on an iPhone (6). The screen is actually bigger than our old Garmin plus much easier to zoom in and out etc. I'm really impressed at the real time updates on traffic congestion and with 2 of us in the car it is really helpful to have the navigator handling the maps and directions. It also has a bluetooth connection so directions come through the car's sound system, quieting any music as needed.

We've also been using it for walking around the streets of new cities. My iphone has now replaced my old cell phone, my iPod Classic, my camera, my Garmin car GPS and my Garmin hiking GPS, as it has all the detailed contour maps I need.
Ditto! My iPhone has replaced so many gadgets I used to use. GPS, camera, alarm clock, timer, stopwatch, world atlas, level, magnifying glass, flashlight, etc etc.

The phone's GPS was invaluable on a trip to Japan last year, walking around Tokyo, and using the subway there as well.

I need to find a car mount for the phone so it works more like a GPS.
__________________
GalaxyBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 07:05 AM   #29
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
audreyh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 16,476
Getting the T-Mobile simple choice plan on an iPhone obsoleted our Garmin with the Europe maps. We turned it on once, saw the iPhone was picking up the same data more or less by cell, and I don't think we used the Garmin on again.

The Garmin touch screens are bloody awful.

We still use the one in the car. Voice commands work pretty well, so you don't have to try to operate it by touching the screen!!!
__________________
Well, I thought I was retired. But it seems that now I'm working as a travel agent instead!
audreyh1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 07:08 AM   #30
Moderator
Ronstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: A little ways southwest of Chicago
Posts: 9,354
My old Garmin etrex is taking up shelf space since I use my iPhone for all hiking/biking and some driving navigation now. I still use DW's Garmin Nuvi on long trips. Like others, it comes in handy as I forget where I'm going and all I need to do is follow the gps to where I'm supposed to go.
__________________
Ronstar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 07:59 AM   #31
Moderator
MichaelB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Rocky Inlets
Posts: 24,465
Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1 View Post
Honestly - I think it is the phones stealing their marketshare. Phones give turn by turn instructions and if you have a co-pilot to operate it, it's even easier! We seem to use the phone half the time because it's usually quicker to set up for a new destination. If it's already saved, then the GPS is usually faster.
I prefer the iPhone navigation to the Garmin. The standalone GPS loses connection much more easily and takes too long to reestablish, while the iPhone cell function reestablishes contact much more quickly. In a city with lots of tall buildings when I don't know my way around, the GPS is critical but frequently useless. The iPhone navigation can work offline.
__________________
MichaelB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 10:25 AM   #32
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
I still have a Garmin. Last time I updated maps it took several hours and attempts.
Yes, that was a problem in the past. A year or so ago, they seem to have upgraded their system. It now downloads and installs relatively fast (it takes maybe a half hour to update three units).

Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
Battery life is poor and has a very sluggish UI. Plus I had to pack a beanbag mount when taking on overseas trips.

iPhone can go on vent clip mount which is tiny, because phones are thin.
That is because the phone is so tiny... and. in any event, the vents are in a position where you have to squint at the phone AND watch the road. One may as well be Texting.

Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
I would say however that the Garmin generally does a better job of guidance at multi lane exchanges.
Yeah, I don't know how one can drive on major highways in major cities (again, I am speaking of BIG cities -- Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, for instance) without lane guidance. It is all well and good to expect a passenger to be the Navigator but that isn't always (perhaps never) practical. The speed and congestion doesn't give one much decision-making time. And signage... there are, quite often, so many signs cluttering the landscape that just sorting them out takes all the time available before it is too late. Oh! And California. Their signage is very logical once you figure it out. Unfortunately most other states follow a different logic. <rant> <rant> <rant>

Quote:
Originally Posted by explanade View Post
But for searching for POIs both before and during trips, it's no contest.

Of course you need data but t mobile simple choice provides roaming data.
Our primary GPS Unit is a Garmin nüvi® 3590LMT. We have had it for about four years and it is still a "current" model. Nevertheless, I have a newer model on order (as mentioned earlier).

Yes, the Garmin is so much better. Primarily because of POI Factory. One of the major POI sets we need is RV parks. The number of Smart Phone Apps for that category is pretty puny. Gas stations (including Gas Buddy), rest areas, red light cameras, etc. are about equal for both devices, I suppose. However, the larger screen and being in the line-of-sight makes the GPS unit much the more desirable.

FWIW, I have had no "sluggishness"-type problems with the last two Garmin units we have had. The only issue I have is that the 3590 is silent when you miss your turn. It simply reroutes you but it is instantaneously.
__________________
"It's tough to make predictions, especially when it involves the future." ~Attributed to many
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." ~(perhaps by) Yogi Berra
"Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge."~ Lau tzu
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 10:32 AM   #33
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
steelyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Triangle
Posts: 3,218
I am solidly in the GPS camp and have a Garmin 3590 that I rely on. It paid for itself during a lengthy trip on which I declined the rental car NAV option ($11/day!). I got the beanbag portable dash mount that can mold itself to nearly anything except a rabid dog.
__________________

steelyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 01:21 PM   #34
Recycles dryer sheets
gromit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelyman View Post
I am solidly in the GPS camp and have a Garmin 3590 that I rely on. It paid for itself during a lengthy trip on which I declined the rental car NAV option ($11/day!). I got the beanbag portable dash mount that can mold itself to nearly anything except a rabid dog.
+1
I love the beanbag mount. My dash is textured and won't hold a suction cup. Using a suction cup on the windshield for a GPS or phone is illegal in 28 states. GPS Windshield Mounts Illegal in over Half the U.S. - GPS Tracklog

I prefer GPS to a smartphone because coverage is good even if I am way off the beaten path. I also don't have to use phone data.
__________________
gromit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 02:08 PM   #35
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 903
Quote:
Originally Posted by gromit View Post
I prefer GPS to a smartphone because coverage is good even if I am way off the beaten path. I also don't have to use phone data.
Technically, most modern smartphones also have the requisite hardware for satellite-based GPS. It's just the free mapping/navigation apps that require an active internet connection.

If you download a navigation app with built-in maps (e.g. Garmin, Magellan, TomTom, Navigon, CoPilot, etc), your smartphone (or tablet) should work similar to a standalone GPS unit. Only caveat is the maps tend to be pretty big. Probably a pretty tight fit if you only have a 16GB smartphone.
__________________
hnzw_rui is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 02:41 PM   #36
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 88
Quote:
Originally Posted by aja8888 View Post
No matter where I am (lost or otherwise), all I have to do is hit the &quot;Home&quot; button and it will take me there!
it's been advised NOT to use your real address as HOME in case vehicle (w/keys) is stolen. use a house a few doors down
__________________
drb391 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 03:17 PM   #37
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
steelyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Triangle
Posts: 3,218
I think I have the same Garmin as RonBoyd. As delivered, it did not have enough memory to accommodate a full install of maps (worldwide), so I got an additional memory card to take care of that and that provided plenty of storage (the card wasn't expensive).

I also think the map updates proceed slowly, but I don't do it that frequently and I have disabled (set to "manual start") the Garmin Core Update service on my PC as it seemed it would fail pretty often when trying to automatically update overnight. Because of that troubleshooting adventure, I no longer select the "check for software updates automatically" when I install new software unless I really think it is necessary.
__________________

steelyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 03:17 PM   #38
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
audreyh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 16,476
Some other Phone apps like MotionX also let you download area maps and use them offline with Phone GPS.
__________________
Well, I thought I was retired. But it seems that now I'm working as a travel agent instead!
audreyh1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 03:27 PM   #39
Recycles dryer sheets
gromit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 154
Thanks for the info hnzw_rui.
__________________
gromit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 03:41 PM   #40
Moderator Emeritus
aja8888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 7,165
TX statute on windshield mounted GPS:

Sec. 547.613. RESTRICTIONS ON WINDOWS. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person commits an offense that is a misdemeanor:
(1) if the person operates a motor vehicle that has an object or material that is placed on or attached to the windshield or side or rear window and that obstructs or reduces the operator's clear view;

I place my Garmin mount below the registration and inspection stickers in the lower left area of the windshied (those DPS issued stickers already obstruct my view). The Garmin is then directly between me and the stickers. Works fine and it's there all the time.
__________________

__________________
......."Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face." -- philosopher Mike Tyson.
aja8888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Older folks and s.e.x. rescueme Life after FIRE 36 04-16-2012 06:20 PM
Prediction re. older folks and entertainment Orchidflower Other topics 48 01-10-2010 06:22 PM
Where older folks work Htown Harry Life after FIRE 21 06-15-2008 06:30 AM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:07 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.